Intergalactic Summit

You are correct in that Pyre Falcon set an outstanding example of professionalism at that time. I did take notice. Most Caldari pilots cannot make that claim. I remember you and your organization because you stood out. You were and still are in the minority. You should be called out on your BS statement that Caldari pilots were silent when things were going their way. If that was the case you would not have shined so brightly.

As I've never claimed any special privilege nor asked for any special treatment for the Republic or the Minmatar people I find it highly unlikely that you'll find such "evidence" Vikarion but, by all means feel free to try.

Unfortunately, the Navies are Correct. Reliability has always been a problem when it comes to Capsuleer Loyalties. It's been quite pronounced recently when you see groups heavily involved in capturing Military Installations for one side of the war suddenly switching sides and assaulting the very systems they had assisted in taking. All for the sake of ISK.

I'm not singling out any single militia in this either, it's a condition which affects all 4 at various times. Hence why both warzones often pendulum back and forth.

Of course there would be large amounts of State Protectorate profiteers in Minmatar territory seeking out payouts. Recently, the profitability of Navy Drakes for one, combined with the higher territorial tier of the Protectorate drew in many such profiteers and their ubiquitous warp core stabilized frigates to chase that payout. And when there's not enough offensive territory to "capture" they will of course move to the opposing front to do so.

It is a statement of fact, yes, but it certainly is not a revelation or solely isolated to the State Protectorate. Since such people are only interested in profit they will do much the same in the TLF, FDU or 24IC and depending on which militia might be said to be, "winning" in territorial gains will be the ones attracting the most such people who are just in it for the ISK. I do not feel that there is a failure in logic in the concept that privateers who just ISK under the CEWPA system will join the militia organization that maximizes their profit. I do not feel I am biased in saying that seeing such privateers from opposing enemy allied militias in their territories and in their complexes using wcs fitted frigates is an issue prevalent among every militia and not just the TLF.

If you think that my pointing out these points is because I have a chip on my shoulder against what I assume to be is the Matari people, and not because I felt you were engaging in propaganda then that is certainly your own opinion. Because I do think it is nothing more than propaganda to make the factually correct statement that there are STPRO privateers in Republic territory without elaborating upon the fact that the issue the TLF faces in present regarding it exists across the entire CEWPA zones. As such, despite your assertions to the contrary Ms. Rella, since I do not hold the bias that you are an ignorant woman I felt that you were implying deliberately with your statement it was solely in the State Protectorate where there exists privateers conducting military complex captures in the allied enemy front, and that it was solely the TLF whom were the victims of it.

I feel I have addressed the fact that this indeed is not the case by any means.

Now, I would admit that I made the error once in holding the entirety of the TLF accountable for the high amounts of wcs frigates capturing complexes in State territory. At present I recognize the need to act with a degree of measured restraint. To make distinctions between those who earn my grudging respect or admiration by fighting and dying well without excuse or reservation and those rogue elements who seek only to use the militias to pad their wallets.

Perhaps I was initially harsh or unfair in comments directed towards yourself, but the amount of empty rhetoric, false bravura and propaganda the CEWPA war appears to generate on all sides engaged in it becomes rather bland, rather quickly irrespective of what uniform is worn. I might say irritation towards such a situation caused me to fail to adhere to the principle that if one must kill a man, it costs nothing to remain polite.

We actually do have plenty to be proud of. We are having victory after victory against what some would consider to be the most powerful armed forces in the cluster. Gallente ship industries are doing very well too. Not only is the war driving up demand for ships, but the overall quality of our ships is very good again.

Though I do think we should stop the war now. We've restored our pride and demonstrated our power. As long as the Caldari are willing to step down (not surrender) then we should too. The war up until this point has been entirely defensive, lets not look like hypocrites and go on the attack.

I'm afraid the Black Eagles is a necessary evil. They certainly have far too much power but time and time again we find that we have to be just as cautious of each other as the other Empires. A clear sign of intelligence is learning from mistakes, and that's exactly what we are doing with the Black Eagles.

All we need to do is restrict their power and make them operate more like a proper police force than an inquisition. Make them require more than just a suspicion to kidnap people in the middle of the night.

At the end of the day, the voters make the final decision, security or freedom. They chose security.

Security from whom, the Caldari or our own Federation? We've already established that we don't have a reason to continue a war of aggression on the State. Other than the uses of the perpetual state of war to erode the civil liberties that separate us from the State.

Sadly, and no slight upon your honour, but I don't really think those are just rumours.

Being ready to die for one's country is necessary in a war. Oddly, though, dying for fun seems more associated with the easily bored and distracted.

Pity they take so many crews down with them.

Not sure either side knows why they're still fighting anymore really..

Of course they do. ISK. One or two or ten here and there may fight for heart and home (or in some cases, Home). But monetary gain is the main driving force. If there has been any other meaningful outcome to all of this, I have not seen it.



And you, stop staying stuff I agree with. It threatens the fabric of the universe for us to come to a consensus on any issue.