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State Protectorate in total disarray.
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Emoh Aidem
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-01 04:06:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Emoh Aidem
In recent events it appears the Caldari State and the State Protectorate are showing signs of battle fatigue after months of being in a stalemate with the Gallente Federation and the Federal Defense Union.

Further evidence of continuing erosion in State defenses became clear when the Caldari Navy was petitioned for an answer in regards to loss of multiple systems to the FDU and the petition was rejected on the grounds of State security.

And in other news an FDU Nyx sighted attacking a Caldari controlled bunker.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#2 - 2013-09-01 05:37:47 UTC
Perhaps if more of your comrades had chosen to remain in Black Rise to fight the FDU rather than coming into the Republic for quick personal monetary gains things might have played out differently.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2013-09-01 05:42:39 UTC
Because a single organization's actions months before the loss of territory is obviously the cause, Ms. Rella.

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#4 - 2013-09-01 06:18:57 UTC
Sorry Pilot Priano but, to this very day I continue to see large numbers of State Protectorate pilots from numerous corporations and alliances contesting complexes in our space.

No need to take my word for it, either. Fly to Vard or some of the surrounding systems and see for yourself.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#5 - 2013-09-01 06:32:54 UTC
... and so the pendulum swings. Back and forth and back and forth.

Katrina Oniseki
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2013-09-01 06:46:20 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
... and so the pendulum swings. Back and forth and back and forth.


With the only difference being the lack of back patting and trumpet blowing when the pendulum is on our side.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-09-01 07:33:34 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Sorry Pilot Priano but, to this very day I continue to see large numbers of State Protectorate pilots from numerous corporations and alliances contesting complexes in our space.

No need to take my word for it, either. Fly to Vard or some of the surrounding systems and see for yourself.


It's true, all the Republic's problems are always particularly special and unique, like a frosted snowflake falling from the heavens all on their own.

Truly, only the Republic faces the dilemma of militia privateers in their territory seeking to maximize their profits on opposing fronts depending on how successful any single CEWPA organization is performing only to switch sides at a moments notice. Certainly, the TLF must be the sole exception to the rule, just as the Matari appear they are the exception to every rule (Just another tool of oppression and vilification towards a deeply victimized people) in that every single one of its participants is there to fight and not to gain as much profit as possible in warp core stabilized and cloaked frigates as exists in every other militia if one has a degree of objectivity about the CEWPA system.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Vikarion
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-09-01 08:47:37 UTC
Emoh Aidem wrote:
In recent events it appears the Caldari State and the State Protectorate are showing signs of battle fatigue after months of being in a stalemate with the Gallente Federation and the Federal Defense Union.

Further evidence of continuing erosion in State defenses became clear when the Caldari Navy was petitioned for an answer in regards to loss of multiple systems to the FDU and the petition was rejected on the grounds of State security.

And in other news an FDU Nyx sighted attacking a Caldari controlled bunker.


It's funny how, when the FDU gets a few systems, the State Protectorate is dying or dead. When the State Protectorate is holding systems, everything is dead silent.

Everything was dead silent for about 4 months.

See, the thing is, despite all the claims of the FDU, you guys have never managed to hold every system for 8 months. You know, like STPRO did. You've never managed anything of note, actually, besides continuing to battle back and forth. There's no real accomplishment or milestone that you've ever reached, except maybe managing, just once, to take every Caldari system. That lasted for about 6 hours. I know. I helped take them back.

STPRO, on the other hand, took everything from you, for a long, long time.

What's it like, having such a (justified) low sense of self-esteem that you have to run to the Gal-Net boards every time you take a few systems? What's it like, being so insecure in your accomplishments that you can't go more than two days without yelping about them, like a puppy trying to get the adults to pay attention? Is it like trying to get women to pay attention to you, when you have such a small ****? Because it looks like that. You know, that pathetic, pleading, "please, pay attention to me!" look?

It's almost worth losing, just to see you whining for attention. See, we'll always be better than you. We don't need your attention. We don't need the glory. In the end, we're just going to enjoy wrapping our hands around your throat, and squeezing. The panic in your eyes, the kicking, the pleading - that's all the reward we need, FDU. And then we'll move on. And we won't even remember your name.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#9 - 2013-09-01 11:14:21 UTC  |  Edited by: iyammarrok
Pieter, Vikarion...
Do you forget the constant inane boasting from State Protectorate pilots as the Federate systems fell recently?

I specifically remember several pilots constantly yelling about their victories from the rooftops. figuratively speaking.
Admittedly one of those voices was Kim's, but she was far from the only one 'backslapping and trumpet calling'

Do you so easily forget the claims that the FDU was dying during that time, that it would never recover?

You are both better than this. Act like it.

Oh, and Vikarion, if you're going to level childish insults at Federate pilots for acting in that manner, I would hope that you're intending to also level them at State protectorate ones. Otherwise you're being a little hypocritical, aren't you?

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-09-01 13:05:32 UTC
Admittedly it's amusing watching people invest emotionally in what is essentially a particularly limited and controlled conflict under the CONCORD Assembly. That's not to say there aren't stakes involved at all, it's just that they're much lower than if this was a total war.

Frankly from where I'm sitting the current CEWPA conflict is just another extension of the present capsuleer war economy. I suppose it's just that since it overlaps in the sovereign concerns of CONCORD signatories you'll always end up with those that need to feel justified in treating it as real war and those that see it for what it actually is. And that's to give private military contractors and armaments suppliers jobs and profits on all sides by maintaining supply and demand for defence related services and products.

But if people want to buy into the thin veneer of patriotism of the CEWPA conflict in order to espouse the view that they have accomplished something of political or economic significance then that is their own concern.

It certainly isn't mine.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-09-01 13:31:02 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
Oh, and Vikarion, if you're going to level childish insults at Federate pilots for acting in that manner, I would hope that you're intending to also level them at State protectorate ones. Otherwise you're being a little hypocritical, aren't you?

He's good at that.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Kali Therese
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-09-01 14:02:32 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Emoh Aidem wrote:
In recent events it appears the Caldari State and the State Protectorate are showing signs of battle fatigue after months of being in a stalemate with the Gallente Federation and the Federal Defense Union.

Further evidence of continuing erosion in State defenses became clear when the Caldari Navy was petitioned for an answer in regards to loss of multiple systems to the FDU and the petition was rejected on the grounds of State security.

And in other news an FDU Nyx sighted attacking a Caldari controlled bunker.


It's funny how, when the FDU gets a few systems, the State Protectorate is dying or dead. When the State Protectorate is holding systems, everything is dead silent.

Everything was dead silent for about 4 months.

See, the thing is, despite all the claims of the FDU, you guys have never managed to hold every system for 8 months. You know, like STPRO did. You've never managed anything of note, actually, besides continuing to battle back and forth. There's no real accomplishment or milestone that you've ever reached, except maybe managing, just once, to take every Caldari system. That lasted for about 6 hours. I know. I helped take them back.

STPRO, on the other hand, took everything from you, for a long, long time.

What's it like, having such a (justified) low sense of self-esteem that you have to run to the Gal-Net boards every time you take a few systems? What's it like, being so insecure in your accomplishments that you can't go more than two days without yelping about them, like a puppy trying to get the adults to pay attention? Is it like trying to get women to pay attention to you, when you have such a small ****? Because it looks like that. You know, that pathetic, pleading, "please, pay attention to me!" look?

It's almost worth losing, just to see you whining for attention. See, we'll always be better than you. We don't need your attention. We don't need the glory. In the end, we're just going to enjoy wrapping our hands around your throat, and squeezing. The panic in your eyes, the kicking, the pleading - that's all the reward we need, FDU. And then we'll move on. And we won't even remember your name.


You are hurt, and making it obvious.


Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2013-09-01 16:40:22 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
Pieter, Vikarion...
Do you forget the constant inane boasting from State Protectorate pilots as the Federate systems fell recently?

I specifically remember several pilots constantly yelling about their victories from the rooftops. figuratively speaking.
Admittedly one of those voices was Kim's, but she was far from the only one 'backslapping and trumpet calling'

Do you so easily forget the claims that the FDU was dying during that time, that it would never recover?

You are both better than this. Act like it.

Oh, and Vikarion, if you're going to level childish insults at Federate pilots for acting in that manner, I would hope that you're intending to also level them at State protectorate ones. Otherwise you're being a little hypocritical, aren't you?


You're talking about that one thread by what amounts to an unshaven boy in his first tour with the Protectorate? The one *we* slapped down because it's demeaning and unbecoming to scream and shout about a victory that'll be undone in mere weeks?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-09-01 16:58:25 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
iyammarrok wrote:
Pieter, Vikarion...
Do you forget the constant inane boasting from State Protectorate pilots as the Federate systems fell recently?

I specifically remember several pilots constantly yelling about their victories from the rooftops. figuratively speaking.
Admittedly one of those voices was Kim's, but she was far from the only one 'backslapping and trumpet calling'

Do you so easily forget the claims that the FDU was dying during that time, that it would never recover?

You are both better than this. Act like it.

Oh, and Vikarion, if you're going to level childish insults at Federate pilots for acting in that manner, I would hope that you're intending to also level them at State protectorate ones. Otherwise you're being a little hypocritical, aren't you?


You're talking about that one thread by what amounts to an unshaven boy in his first tour with the Protectorate? The one *we* slapped down because it's demeaning and unbecoming to scream and shout about a victory that'll be undone in mere weeks?


Yeah, I think he's talking about that one. The time before, I don't even think there were any.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-09-01 17:02:05 UTC
I know that just about everyone wishes they could forget Damar Rocarion, but I didn't know so many people had achieved it.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#16 - 2013-09-01 17:03:04 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:


It's true, all the Republic's problems are always particularly special and unique, like a frosted snowflake falling from the heavens all on their own.

Truly, only the Republic faces the dilemma of militia privateers in their territory seeking to maximize their profits on opposing fronts depending on how successful any single CEWPA organization is performing only to switch sides at a moments notice. Certainly, the TLF must be the sole exception to the rule, just as the Matari appear they are the exception to every rule (Just another tool of oppression and vilification towards a deeply victimized people) in that every single one of its participants is there to fight and not to gain as much profit as possible in warp core stabilized and cloaked frigates as exists in every other militia if one has a degree of objectivity about the CEWPA system.



What? Where do you get this from my posts in this thread? I never claimed any "special" status for the TLF. I was simply commenting on the large numbers of Caldari pilots that I'm seeing in our war zone. It was a statement of fact.

Pilot you really should take that enormous chip off your shoulder and at least attempt to think logically. Your biases are clouding your perception of reality. Greatly.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-09-01 17:34:52 UTC
Kali Therese wrote:


You are hurt, and making it obvious.




Oh Kail, don't confuse trying to get someone angry at me with actually caring. I'm hoping that planet-side duties will soon slacken enough for me to rejoin the fight, and, when I do, I want grudges. It's so much more fun to kill someone who really, really wants to kill you.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-09-01 17:36:30 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:

What? Where do you get this from my posts in this thread? I never claimed any "special" status for the TLF. I was simply commenting on the large numbers of Caldari pilots that I'm seeing in our war zone. It was a statement of fact.

Pilot you really should take that enormous chip off your shoulder and at least attempt to think logically. Your biases are clouding your perception of reality. Greatly.


That's odd. I seem to recall quite a bit of vocal activity in the squeaky wheel spectrum coming from you in other threads. Perhaps, unlike you, readers of this thread can remember what you said in others?
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#19 - 2013-09-01 17:52:00 UTC
All four Empires have their vocal braggards, people are delusional if they try and pretend they don't.

I mean really what else do you expect than boasting in a show theater that is designed to cater to Capsuleer egos? It's a carrot on a stick to attain fame and glory, at the cost of thousands of baseliners a week, and in the end? Nothing's permanent and everything constantly changes.


But of course, continue arguing between yourselves through rose tinted spectacles.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2013-09-01 18:00:01 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
I know that just about everyone wishes they could forget Damar Rocarion, but I didn't know so many people had achieved it.


Andreus, Damar is very much yesterday's man in the warzone.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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