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When are the Marauder Changes going on Sisi

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1 - 2013-08-29 21:41:06 UTC
So I can get a crew in there to show CCP how clueless they are?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-08-29 21:50:11 UTC
They only just announced it jesus christ shut up
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#3 - 2013-08-29 21:53:54 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
They only just announced it jesus christ shut up


No.

It is going to take months of testing, frapsing, and screaming to turn this around, if it is at all possible.
Given that Fozzie is involved, I imagine there will be very little movement on this disaster.
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#4 - 2013-08-29 21:54:47 UTC
When its done.

I am the Zodiac, I am the stars, You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars, Queen of the night, swathed in satin black, Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-08-29 21:58:35 UTC
a bloo bloo bloo my broken incursion isk
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#6 - 2013-08-29 22:00:49 UTC
Is this going to be like when we all thought the new domi was going to be worthless?
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#7 - 2013-08-29 22:01:43 UTC
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
a bloo bloo bloo my broken incursion isk



Gee, I think I posted somewhere a few days ago that wrecking high sec income is precisely what the null sec cartels want to drive more players into null sec rental situations. Guess I am still tinfoil, huh?
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#8 - 2013-08-29 22:07:26 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Guess I am still tinfoil, huh?


Pretty much. You might buy stock in tissues though, the way you're headed.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-29 22:12:06 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
a bloo bloo bloo my broken incursion isk



Gee, I think I posted somewhere a few days ago that wrecking high sec income is precisely what the null sec cartels want to drive more players into null sec rental situations. Guess I am still tinfoil, huh?


You're really easy to bait. Pirate battleships are way more common for incursions than marauders anyway. If CCP wanted to balance incursions they would do the correct thing (remove them from highsec).
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-08-29 22:13:01 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
a bloo bloo bloo my broken incursion isk



Gee, I think I posted somewhere a few days ago that wrecking high sec income is precisely what the null sec cartels want to drive more players into null sec rental situations. Guess I am still tinfoil, huh?



Tell us again why highsec should, with absolutely zero risk of any kind (Excluding your own idiocy of course), be able to make more money than nullsec.


(Jesus christ you're crying because it nerfs your incursion boat? HTFU.)
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-08-29 22:16:05 UTC
his is for the winter expansion. calm down. eat a snickers. we havent even deployed 1.1 yet.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#12 - 2013-08-29 22:18:15 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
a bloo bloo bloo my broken incursion isk



Gee, I think I posted somewhere a few days ago that wrecking high sec income is precisely what the null sec cartels want to drive more players into null sec rental situations. Guess I am still tinfoil, huh?



Tell us again why highsec should, with absolutely zero risk of any kind (Excluding your own idiocy of course), be able to make more money than nullsec.


(Jesus christ you're crying because it nerfs your incursion boat? HTFU.)


Only way null sec cartels get all the renters they want is to destroy high sec income.
These ongoing nerfs to high sec income are not a surprise.

I guess I am taken aback at the audacity of the attacks, but then again, why should I be?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2013-08-29 22:22:29 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Only way null sec cartels get all the renters they want is to destroy high sec income.
These ongoing nerfs to high sec income are not a surprise.

I guess I am taken aback at the audacity of the attacks, but then again, why should I be?



In other words, you cannot give a single reason why literally risk free highsec income should be anything like as high as it is.

Highsec income should be well below that earned in places where you actually stand the chance of losing something. As for renters, I understand that no-one has ever had problems finding plenty of them, regardless of what's going on in highsec.

I am taken aback by the sheer levels of entitlement you empire bears have.


As Elizabeth said, incursions should be straight up removed from highsec. I'm another one of many who've been saying that since the start.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#14 - 2013-08-29 22:36:41 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Only way null sec cartels get all the renters they want is to destroy high sec income.
These ongoing nerfs to high sec income are not a surprise.

I guess I am taken aback at the audacity of the attacks, but then again, why should I be?



In other words, you cannot give a single reason why literally risk free highsec income should be anything like as high as it is.

Highsec income should be well below that earned in places where you actually stand the chance of losing something. As for renters, I understand that no-one has ever had problems finding plenty of them, regardless of what's going on in highsec.

I am taken aback by the sheer levels of entitlement you empire bears have.


As Elizabeth said, incursions should be straight up removed from highsec. I'm another one of many who've been saying that since the start.


I could give you a list of about 15 posts in the last couple days by goons et all extolling the virtues of why null sec income is so much better than high sec, but that would not get through to your brain.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2013-08-29 22:38:02 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I could give you a list of about 15 posts in the last couple days by goons et all extolling the virtues of why null sec income is so much better than high sec, but that would not get through to your brain.



Let's make it simple. How much do you, personally, make per hour in highsec with one character?
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#16 - 2013-08-29 22:43:55 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I could give you a list of about 15 posts in the last couple days by goons et all extolling the virtues of why null sec income is so much better than high sec, but that would not get through to your brain.



Let's make it simple. How much do you, personally, make per hour in highsec with one character?


I make about 90M running in armor incursion fleets, under perfect conditions.
I make more running around semi-afk picking off clone soldier tags in 0.2 space.

When I lived in null, I made twice that, minimum.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2013-08-29 22:52:48 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I could give you a list of about 15 posts in the last couple days by goons et all extolling the virtues of why null sec income is so much better than high sec, but that would not get through to your brain.



Let's make it simple. How much do you, personally, make per hour in highsec with one character?


I make about 90M running in armor incursion fleets, under perfect conditions.
I make more running around semi-afk picking off clone soldier tags in 0.2 space.

When I lived in null, I made twice that, minimum.





Well, I'm calling bull on that. Pre-hub nerf I could pull in ~100m/hr in nullsec, and I heard in 2b+ vndicators you could do 150m. While I'm sure you could pull your mythical 180+ if you were plexing, it would in no way be a reliable source of income, unlike a highsec incursion. 90m/hr for absolutely zero risk of any description whatsoever is laughably out of whack.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#18 - 2013-08-29 22:57:50 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I could give you a list of about 15 posts in the last couple days by goons et all extolling the virtues of why null sec income is so much better than high sec, but that would not get through to your brain.



Let's make it simple. How much do you, personally, make per hour in highsec with one character?


I make about 90M running in armor incursion fleets, under perfect conditions.
I make more running around semi-afk picking off clone soldier tags in 0.2 space.

When I lived in null, I made twice that, minimum.





Well, I'm calling bull on that. Pre-hub nerf I could pull in ~100m/hr in nullsec, and I heard in 2b+ vndicators you could do 150m. While I'm sure you could pull your mythical 180+ if you were plexing, it would in no way be a reliable source of income, unlike a highsec incursion. 90m/hr for absolutely zero risk of any description whatsoever is laughably out of whack.


Yeah right.....

Why am I getting into an argument with another mouthpiece for the null sec cartels?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-08-29 23:00:55 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Yeah right.....

Why am I getting into an argument with another mouthpiece for the null sec cartels?



Dunno, same reason I'm arguing with yet another entitled highsec carebear.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-08-29 23:41:16 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I could give you a list of about 15 posts in the last couple days by goons et all extolling the virtues of why null sec income is so much better than high sec, but that would not get through to your brain.



Let's make it simple. How much do you, personally, make per hour in highsec with one character?


I make about 90M running in armor incursion fleets, under perfect conditions.
I make more running around semi-afk picking off clone soldier tags in 0.2 space.

When I lived in null, I made twice that, minimum.





Well, I'm calling bull on that. Pre-hub nerf I could pull in ~100m/hr in nullsec, and I heard in 2b+ vndicators you could do 150m. While I'm sure you could pull your mythical 180+ if you were plexing, it would in no way be a reliable source of income, unlike a highsec incursion. 90m/hr for absolutely zero risk of any description whatsoever is laughably out of whack.


Yeah right.....

Why am I getting into an argument with another mouthpiece for the null sec cartels?


If you can't trust our numbers why should we trust yours?
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