Jita Park Speakers Corner

If high sec was of no importance to null sec then why do you waste so much time talking about it?

Highsec is very important: it's where we do our easy-mode manufacturing on our industry alts; it's where we gank ice mining bots; it's where we park our missioning and incursion alts to make risk-free income!

The poor irrelevant wretches who actually live there on their mains, however, don't matter at all, despite their semi-literate bleating.

Hmmm.... I suppose I should post.

Ok, I've been in just about every region in eve at one point or other. I've fought 0.0 alliances, low sec prats, and high sec gankers. At one point or another, I've shot down members of just about every alliance (or their predecessor) that has posed so far.

Guess what?

EvE, not the players, needs highsec to function.

Seriously.

The reason is that in low sec and 0.0, you never trust anyone. Ever. For any reason under any circumstance, because today's alliance mates might be tomorrow's traitors that sold you out to (goons/BoB/IRON/Test/fill in the blank here).

Any business dealings require a level of trust. Yes, even via the market, because someone had to trust someone else to get that shipment of whatever it is out to nullsec to you. Let's say you're in an offensive position pushing into some other nullsec area. It's guys buying shipments from highsec flying out to you that keep you going, and the simple reason is that most nullsec wars outpace their ability to replace losses and expended ordnance very, very rapidly.

I should know, more then one major alliance has paid me handsomely to fly from high sec to null sec to supply them with the goods they need, including elements of TEST, so, if you really feel that strongly about high sec being unneeded, please, jettison your ammo as quickly as possible, because if you didn't make it yourself, it might have come from... ick... high sec...

This thread is terrible.

Would anyone like a nice cup of tea and a biscuit?

You won't get any rational discussion on the topic because it's pretty hard to take you seriously. Case in point, your constant condescending attitudes, reflected in your threads and posts. You should stick to being asshats, it's what you do best. Just don't ask to be taken seriously. Most, if not all, of the whine threads started by alledged "high-sec carebears" I've seen are so obviously alt trolls for bored null players to swoop in and have some lulz. The only group of players I see overly obsessed with everyone else is null players. (if forum trends are truely to be believed) You're constantly posting chest beating threads and bragging about how important you are and telling everyone else how irrelevant they are. It's embarrassing, or at least it should be.

The one thing I've taken away from the many threads and posts from you lot, is that high-sec carebears simply don't care what you're doing and that really gets your goat. Same goes for the forum, most players don't bother because there's no reason to engage in any discussion with you for said reasons. Anyway, as someone leaving EVE due to real life situations, I just thought I'd put that out there. Fly...or something. o/

Your Alliance would let me take a constellation in Deklein for free ? Doubtfull.

I can haz this cute industy lvl 5 system you're hiding ?

OP needs to change the title to something interesting and relevant, (at least imo), like:

"Do high-sec carebears really think they have any importance to CCP?"

Or perhaps better put:

"Do high-sec carebears feel they are important to CCP?"

I noticed the OP pointed out that a lot of tritanium comes from highsec, and I myself have noticed that. As any nullsec miner can easily tell you, it's because the only good source of tritanium is veldspar, which is low in isk value to miners who can easily mine something better instead. The same is true for pyerite, and even somewhat for mexallon and isogen, simply because they are readily available in highsec yet primarily contained in low-value ores.

Incidently, spodumain and gneiss (both nullsec ores) are generally overlooked because of their low value. Spodumain generates tritanium and pyrite, and gneiss generates mexallon and isogen. They both produce far less of the expensive minerals than other ores around them, but highsec minerals they produce in pitiful amounts. I think it might be due to an oversight in the dramatic size variation of the single refinable unit between highsec and nullsec ores. So to fix it, if the tritanium and pyrite from spodumain and the mexallon and isogen from gneiss were dramatically increased, those ores could be worth mining and provide nullsec with those highsec minerals.

Just thought I would throw it out there.

Shows how much you know of nullsec diplomacy. vOv