EVE General Discussion

Well, i do, those guys can do to hell, then hades, then whatever other underworld of torment is available for a few centuries, and after that, a weekend in DETROIT!

I mean seriously, I'd just got all comfortable and was able to rat in Delve when I was in IT, and here comes goons. Later, I was in Raiden and then NCDot and here comes (you guessed it), goons again so back to empire I go. I end up in TEST....just in time for a Goon/TEST falling out and war and there I go out of null again......

The entire reason for any Goon offensive is to stop Jenn aSide from enjoying null sec (it's not paranoia if it always happens). They don't observe the law of the blue doughnut at all!

Why Iteron mine in 1.0 when you can ninja mine in 0.0 with a venture?

With as much 0.0 as there is that is totally empty you could have your pick of better ores than you can find in high-sec with minimal investment.

**** paying rent or even Sov bills for that matter, you pay Sov, I sell your ore cause you CBA to actually use all of the space your greedy ass has accumulated.

Even if you CBA, it isn't like you're going to be able to guard EVERY system in 0.0.

Cease paying rent, let the overlords burn themselves out with Sov while all of us mining insurgents rob them blind.

What they see as "scraps", we see as better opportunity than offered in high-sec (and a hell of a lot more fun to collect).

I don't see a tangible difference. I pay ~550 million ISK per month per account to play EVE Online. That is considerably higher than what the per-player cost to rent space is. If you are OK with PLEX, then I don't see why you wouldn't be OK with renting.

This was a good post and the people on EVE-O are too stupid to realize why. +1

I don't know much or care about Sovereignty. I'm not advising people to simply to try to just go and claim their own space.
Sure, I am trying to discourage people, who are, or are considering renting, cause I find the concept of paying other "players" for the right, (for what is), for more rewarding gaming, well, just silly.

I understand that the riches of Null Sec are extremely rewarding, but, personally, I don't want to provide other players with an easy source of income. As such, this is one of the reasons I avoid Null Sec, like the plague.

I understand that the riches of Null Sec are extremely rewarding, but, personally, I don't want to provide other players with an easy source of income. As such, this is one of the reasons I avoid Null Sec, like the plague.

If you buy things in Jita then I have some terrible news for you.

OK, so think of it like this:

You are a poor farmer. A peasant without any land. You graze your cattle on overworked common land along with all the other peasants. You have no space to grow crops. You cattle are unhealthy and small, you can't make money from the milk, they're too small to slaughter and the hides are worthless. Occasionally the other peasants using the common land kick you off. Your children are malnourished, you eat turnips - every day - and your wife thinks you are a disappointment. Your house is also quite terrible - you have to share it with hundreds of other peasants. You have to survive on 1 groat a month.

A wealthy landowner with a private army turns up and says that you can come and work on his land and all you have to do is pay him a tithe. Its 10 groats a month. 10 groats is allot but when you think about it you'll have some prime land all of your own, your cattle will graze and be healthy, there is enough land to grow crops. After you do the math, you realise that you'll be making 100 groats a month easily. In fact you'll have to take on staff to make the land make the most money. You'll not only get a spanking new space castle home but you can build country estates, the land owner will make sure your land is irrigated at no additional cost, he'll even send his standing army in to protect you should the revolting peasants turn up. That army will never set foot on your land unless its to protect it and they certainly can't farm on it. Its punishable by death. The children get new toys, the wife is happy and you'll never have to see another turnip again.

You take the landowner up on his offer and after a while you're stinking rich with none of the responsibility of actually maintaining the estate you live on (ok, the country estates need firewood). The peasants you left behind shout "renter" at you, which really means nothing as you look down on them from your golden carriage, dressed in your finest clothes. You even shoot one for the fun of it.

So, this game play mechanic, ( the "freedom" of living in Null Sec ), is now a, ( player ), marketable product.

Sure, there is a cost to this "freedom", which is, you have to fight others to obtain and hold Sovereignty. But this game mechanic was placed by the game makers as a "free" choice. It is players who have smartly, ( business wise ), but restrictedly, (gameplay wise ), placed a price on this freedom.

Let's not talk about the, ( non exsitant ), opportunities for new/younger Corps the chance to obtain Sovereignty, ( sure they can fight for it, but they have no hope against the current Sovereign juggernaughts ). This is a different matter all together. ( OH!!! I'm guilty of actually bringing this up ).

This was a good post and the people on EVE-O are too stupid to realize why. +1