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Derpina Blapparoo
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-08-28 13:13:22 UTC
I didn't see this mentioned in the commonly suggested ideas thread, or see it looking back a few pages, so my apologies if this has been brought up recently.

Since there is now a separate server in China, EvE is no longer a one world wide server game any more any way, so how about a new, fresh start server?

I've seen many people on other gaming sites that would like to try EvE, but are turned off at the idea of being 5-10 years behind the majority of the player base, especially in a harsh game world like this one. New players and even disillusioned bitter vets could get a fresh start in a new universe.

I would put the physical server on the US west coast for a different time zone option as well.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#2 - 2013-08-28 13:28:32 UTC
Anything that is useful to the little guy is more useful to the big guy with 30,000 accounts at their disposal. No.

And that China doesn't let westerners in doesn't set a precedent to how servers should be set up.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#3 - 2013-08-28 13:32:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
Derpina Blapparoo wrote:
I didn't see this mentioned in the commonly suggested ideas thread, or see it looking back a few pages, so my apologies if this has been brought up recently.

Since there is now a separate server in China, EvE is no longer a one world wide server game any more any way, so how about a new, fresh start server?

I've seen many people on other gaming sites that would like to try EvE, but are turned off at the idea of being 5-10 years behind the majority of the player base, especially in a harsh game world like this one. New players and even disillusioned bitter vets could get a fresh start in a new universe.

I would put the physical server on the US west coast for a different time zone option as well.


China has a separate server due to Government stipulations. The rest of the world are in one unsharded universe and that is what is unique about EVE Online.

This sounds like C&C Tiberium Alliances where they open "New Worlds" and people migrate. People who think they can't "compete" with "bittervets" (like myself >9.5 years) really wouldn't fare well and so I'm not for pandering to their needs. It's not an SP competition, it's a persistant world where a 1 month old Noob can take down a 10 year vet. Just search YouTube for EVE Online Noobs take on X.

There's a 14\21 day trial to see what you can do and in the right Corp you'll learn and grow and match me and others who have been part of this experience for so long.

As for "damaging subscriptions" EVE subscriptions have risen year on year...no need to change what it's always been: The best unsharded MMO in the world and this is undisputed.

Oh and why the US? London is closer to Europe so put it there.

[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b] Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-28 13:32:24 UTC
The only reason china is on its own server is because of its government.
If it weren't for that they would be on the same server as the rest of us.

As far as being "behind" the mass population that is an illusionary barrier, the only advantage an older player has is options.
It takes 5 days for engineering V, wether you trained that 10 years ago or last week once it is to V it is done.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Derpina Blapparoo
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-08-28 14:02:33 UTC
How many subs does the game REALLY have? I know 400-500k is bandied about, but it's probably more like 150k with the rest being individuals with a bunch of accounts. Yes I know money is money, but how much of the game's growth is new players vs vets getting new accounts for alts?

Maximus Aerelius wrote:

Oh and why the US? London is closer to Europe so put it there.


Already answered:

Derpina Blapparoo wrote:
for a different time zone option


Current server is already in GMT time zone, yes?
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#6 - 2013-08-28 14:09:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
Derpina Blapparoo wrote:
How many subs does the game REALLY have? I know 400-500k is bandied about, but it's probably more like 150k with the rest being individuals with a bunch of accounts. Yes I know money is money, but how much of the game's growth is new players vs vets getting new accounts for alts?

Maximus Aerelius wrote:

Oh and why the US? London is closer to Europe so put it there.


Already answered:
Derpina Blapparoo wrote:
for a different time zone option


Current server is already in GMT time zone, yes?


My bad on the server placement, apologies. Quite a good idea but then Australia would want one and where would it stop? lol.

Money is money and as I'm not CCP employed I don't know the numbers but I've seen them (CCP) go from a small team to being where they are now so I don't think it's just alts but down to the reputation, the marketing, the exposure that brings in more people. Also when I started in 2003 the most people you could expect logged on was < 7,000 now it's <50,000 and obviously they can't all be alts Blink

I have a Corpie who is a RL friend who started up a year ago and I know people who have come back after several years off and discovered it's a different game and are re-learning.

I'm just not a fan of your "Let's Start Again" idea...you could biomass yourself and start a fresh Roll < that was a droll joke by the way as it wouldn't solve anything and not meant as an insult.

[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b] Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
suid0
Pandemic Horde Inc.
#7 - 2013-08-28 14:32:45 UTC  |  Edited by: suid0
Ignoring the fact that EVE existing as a single sandbox being one of the things that make it so great.

The harsh reality is if your friends can't get in and make it on the current server, they probably wouldn't survive the 'gold rush' created by another new server going up either.

the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones  - Commander Ted
Woeful Animation
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2013-08-28 14:37:23 UTC
Part of the charm of eve and one of its main strengths has been its ability to keep old content relevant. The in-game skills give an advantage, sure, but its the real life person behind the keyboard skills that make the bigger difference. Moving to another server doesn't solve close that gap.

There is no need to start over fresh. Simply create an alt and start again. The universe/sandbox is big enough.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-28 15:06:09 UTC  |  Edited by: TheBlueMonkey
EvE being a single universe is what drew me to eve, so, no.
Additional servers wouldn't do anything but dilute accomplishments in the game and shrink fleets.

I tried WoW for a while and you know what I found "woo number 1 on the server" meant number 1 out of like 5000 rather than number 1 out of 40mil or however many people play WoW.

In EvE, if you get top killer on eve kill, that's out of everyone, the full 400k which is far more impressive.

On top of that "the idea of being 5-10 years behind the majority of the player base" is entirely wrong and down to a misunderstanding on your friends side.

There are a finite amount of situations were skills make a difference.
My small laser skills do nothing for me while I'm in a thanny.
My Thanny skills do nothing for me while I'm in a rifter.
the main thing that age gives you sp wise is more choice and a more expensive clone.

Yes, there are some core skills that are good to get to lvl5 at some point but they are not a requirement.

The single biggest disadvantage a new player has when they start isn't sp, it's not isk, it's not even knowledge of the game.
It's who they know, or more to the point don't know.