EVE General Discussion

You sir, are experiencing the usual effect of "Summer Slump" where prices, generally speaking, dip due to increased player activity and thus an increased supply of mins. Summer holidays, student unemployment, and so forth.

This year however, we've also been treated to a "resource rebalance" as part of Odyssey and although it's full effects have yet to be seen it's there and it's not going anywhere.

Third, mineral prices from much earlier in the year enjoyed a bit of a push from the big rush to build battleships before mineral rebalancing made them more mineral-intensive to build. You'd think, at first glance, that might allow for greater mineral demand and higher prices -- but some stockpiles from that "rush" to build are still lingering in the economy.

There are a few other factors, but those are some of them and I'm sure if you watch various threads you will glean greater analysis, at least a few opposing theories and plenty of info from various highly informed individuals.

The price slump may have something to do with fewer ice miners in belts... They are instead being forced to mine minerals this month and for another 2 or 3 weeks as CFC uses "fear tactics" to reduce the number of ice mining players.

Ah, and so it begins...

Poor human based null sec miners are not making enough money / hour, thanks to the huge gift of ridiculously huge ore belts in null sec, being exploited by the bot armies, thereby pouring huge quantities of minerals onto the market.
So naturally, people like you figure the solution is to nerf yet another high sec income stream.

Don't worry, CCP is way ahead of you on that one.

And to the OP, if you think it is bad for you in null sec, imagine how bad it is for the high sec miner, after the null sec belts were gifted a few months ago.

Plus factor in these tidbits:

1. The cessation of much of the null sec hostilities and one big happy blue family starting to emerge again, will result in fewer minerals will be needed in ship building. Unless, of course, goons decide to build a supercap for every line member.
2. The push to get even more miner serfs into null sec to fill the cartel coffers will mean even MORE minerals flooding the market.
3. According to the dev blogs, CCP is gifting null with even more lucrative belts than they have now, apparently in some farcical attempt to "balance" mex supply/ demand. (Others would say it is just another step by CCP in giving the null sec cartels total independence from high sec, but the game designers would NEVER give the cartels that, right?)

So OP, if you think minerals are low now, "you ain't see nuttin' yet, baby". Your best option is to talk to other null sec miners, find a quiet system, and start using the same programs your null sec mates are.

Nullsec can just reprocess salvage to gain minerals after a carrier cleared the site. Faster aquisition of minerals for less time spent. Sure you could aswell ship your salvage to highsec and sell it and then buy minerals but that would consume more time.

A). What am I doing wrong? Mining and posting with an alt.

B). Why are mineral prices so low? They aren't.

Well that's at the very least a quarter of all ice prducts at least in hgih sec. so yes it effects more than just caldari pricing. and the truth is there are more miners in caldari space than other racial areas.. many of those miners are now mining mineral where they used to mine ice.

Ironically the ice is still getting mined ... by fewer miners are accomplishing this .. but it's gone on schedule...

It's simple, mining is an activity that involves extremely little risk (relatively speaking, AFK mining is safe, even with the increased number of gankers) and requires absolutely no skill.

Naturally, the payoff shouldn't be the same as an activity that can be high risk and requires a basic understanding of game mechanics to do well at.