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Peace is Boring

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#301 - 2013-08-28 19:43:44 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
someone has a real hard on for the cfc to reset each other

FA shot first, got themselves some Fountain.

:smugdog:

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#302 - 2013-08-28 19:44:43 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
If they wouldn't come up to the ice fields, how were they scanning Retrievers?
Have Goons got access to a magical device that scans ship fits over a vast distance?

You'd be surprised, but that miner next to you in the skiff that seems to have gone AFK with a full hold is actually passive targeting and scanning you.



Confirming mining is the best way to have an interdiction on minin... wait....

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#303 - 2013-08-28 19:45:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Edit, yes I have a character that murders people, 1.76B isk kills 0.27B isk losses.

Not bad, 100bil on mine says eve-kill, and I hadn't even whored on a supercap killmail with it.

Killboard's green !!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#304 - 2013-08-28 19:45:52 UTC
Andski wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Andski wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Then instead of setting people blue and paying them a ton of isk i.e BL, try killing them instead :)


People who lose wars shouldn't pretend to have valuable input for those who win them


lol.. in other words "Damn, I can't refute that point so I will just come up with an insult"

Classic :)


We're not actually blue with BL because we still like fighting them.

Your alliance, on the other hand, has been blue with PL for almost three years. The funny thing is that a lot of people in both NCdot/PL are still slow and don't get it, complaining about nobody engaging you with supers unless it's beyond doubt that you'd lose the fight.



I have more friends than youuuuu, I have more friends than youuuu!

That's the tl;dr for those interested.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#305 - 2013-08-28 19:50:49 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
There needs to be another war soon. Peace makes for little reason to log in but to amass space money. Having the spoils of war is great, and everyone appreciates them; but, most of the fun in this curiously excellent spaceship sandbox is in the actual taking rather than in the having.


Do what BoB used to do, tool up, pick a direction, roll in that direction destroying everything until you run out of money, return home, make more money, repeat.

I want to see huge chunks of completely unclaimed 0.0 because goods have just broken everything there... you know... like delve... only more.



That would be... awesomely chaotic.

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Joepopo
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#306 - 2013-08-28 19:51:54 UTC
Just popping to remind all that the CFC is a big ball of blues.

Our empire in null sec is the most stable, most safe place in all 0.0.

TNT has the record for the longest sov and Goonswarm has been in deklein for close to 4 years now.

This is why the CFC rental program is the best available in all 0.0. There is nowhere in space where exploration is as safe and profitable as here.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#307 - 2013-08-28 19:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Lyris Nairn wrote:


Civil war would require there to be a cohesive faction within GSF or the CFC which is loyal to itself but disloyal to the whole. While such a faction is undoubtedly possible, I have not heard of it; moreover, if such a faction did exist it would have to be better than the best diplomatic and counterintelligence teams in the game at diplomacy and counterintelligence. That's a tall order. There arises an issue that the fledgling faction would most likely be snuffed out, its instigators and collaborators excised before it could develop into a large movement. Such an entity would have to materialize out of whole cloth, which is honestly unreasonable.



I think the renting direction is a good indicator.

Separate the sheep from the wolves. Fond out who was truly Goons when Goons were Goons.

And who are the isk whores.

Besides, what better entity than the GSF for such a "tall order"?

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#308 - 2013-08-28 19:57:49 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:
Andski wrote:
You're clearly not up to speed so let me help you get there: IT Alliance, the NC and SoCo all went down despite those things all existing and giving them what you seem to believe is an insurmountable advantage

All I know is that I'm not going to organize 10,000 people (many of which I can't stand) to lead a crusade in an internet spaceship game to defeat an opponent I am, for the most part, indifferent towards. Not unless somebody wants to pay me real currency.

Then you blatantly do not understand the mindset of people who lead alliances, coalitions, or fleets. Or for that matter, guilds, raids, platoons, or whatever other collective groups appear in other games. People like to lead, even when it is leading to do a thing they might not have a personal investment in, because being a leader is fun. Being able to look at a map, or a DPS chart, or a battle report, or an Arena Rating, or some purple pixels, or a flashy title over your elf's head, and say, "I did that," is nice. Being able to be provably good at your chosen hobby, to be able to laugh at scrubs like yourself and say, "hate me because I am better than you," and point to your dilz, is a great feeling that feeds the egos of people across all age groups and across all MMOs. Ask me about my 2v2 rating of 2300; ask me about my top lane Jax; ask me about my no scope 420 fps skills; ask me about how I led fleets for 12 hours a day for two months; and so on. These are things that people take pride in, even if they're not provably very good at it, because they like to think themselves better.

And other people are just altruistic. They do it because they know it will help the group. On my friend's minecraft server, I will log on for a couple of hours and just go exploring and mining then deposit a bunch of ore in a chest and log off. It's fun for me, because I know I am helping and that I am contributing to other people's fun whom I care about. I swapped my sleep schedule around from playing in USTZ to leading Siege Fleets in AUTZ, because I knew that our coalition was weak in that time zone and that I could help. I feel good about it. Getting some PLEX per month to keep me from having to stop leading fleets and go farm rats is a nice gesture, but it's nothing like the RMT salary you seem to think exists.

I wonder if perhaps you are Gevlon Goblin. Your lack of understanding of human motivations resembles him.


That's a lot of selfless acts for someone who just recently wasn't sure if you were "allowed" to do certain things.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#309 - 2013-08-28 19:59:53 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Khemax wrote:
I thought you guys were going to kill test off...as I see it test is still out there in numbers.

Make it your new war to not take tests systems but actually kill them off completely.
8k+ members is still loads fo targets to kill Twisted

Or if you want a real battle make it your task in life to kill off BL or PL (Sorry guys just the first names that came to mind)

Plenty of targets out there


War against BL or PL would be a pretty awesome thing. It will happen eventually, I am sure. I look forward to it.

But for now, killing TEST off is not really a campaign of the sort I am wanting. As they live in low sec and have no assets in space to defend, this amounts to camping an undock for hours on end without bubbles while carriers play station games. I understand that some folks in Empire find that sort of game play fun, e.g., the wardec corps that hound the Jita undock, but it is not something you mobilize a large coalition to do and field large fleets to accomplish. We could easily camp the undock with a few hundred dudes for a while, but TEST would have no incentive to undock and we would just be wasting each other's time for nothing. Real wars are fought when one or both sides have an incentive to fight, because they have something to lose or gain.



Are you picking your battles, or wanting someone else to pick them for you? Please make up your mind...

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#310 - 2013-08-28 20:00:26 UTC
Seems Eve-O is back to screaming for someone (but not me, for erm, just someone, kk) to ruin the CFC's empire so they can leap around and pretend the schadenfreude they get from it is actual, meaningful happiness.

Or at least that's what I assume when someone makes over 30 posts about it in a day.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#311 - 2013-08-28 20:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Random Majere wrote:
I imagine gaming websites talking about Eve, and describing how the most powerful coalition in the game needs to pay mercs to attack them in order to "create content" for its members. I am sure this would help attract many new players to Eve Online!
Only because you didn't imagine it on TMDC first, EVEs premier source of filtered news.
They'd put the best spin available on it, sell it to CCP and get percentages.

I love the smell of spinned news in the morning, it smells like ... Politics!


How exactly would you spin, "There is no reason for anyone to generate content in EVE Online?"



"we're broke from our latest efforts and need to stockpile assets".

Or some such strategic nonsense. Like "let's have a war, someone start it!" and then never do anything about it.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#312 - 2013-08-28 20:03:20 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
[quote=William Walker]
Yay mercs! I'd be looking forward to mass small gang roaming events and... uuuh... ran out of steam there. But mass small gang roaming still sounds like fun.


Why is it that after every major nullsec war there is a resurgence of people praising ~wulfpax~ on the forums?



Because they are fun. Not tidi grind fests of waiting for the lag to clear.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#313 - 2013-08-28 20:04:40 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Isaac Collins wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
There needs to be another war soon. Peace makes for little reason to log in but to amass space money. Having the spoils of war is great, and everyone appreciates them; but, most of the fun in this curiously excellent spaceship sandbox is in the actual taking rather than in the having.

Declare war on eve, Start destroying every poco you see, you're bound to ruffle some jimmies and get the blood flowing again.

Who even cares about pocos?


Anyone that produces or uses tech II, pos fuels and any other items that require planetary produced items?


Is there such a bottleneck that any one region of space is worth taking for its planet resources?



Yes, all of them. Get to getting.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#314 - 2013-08-28 20:07:37 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
wtf 90% of the posts per page are from the same poster...

someone needs an intervention.

I have just posted a reply to every comment. vOv

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#315 - 2013-08-28 20:08:01 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Well, since it's nearly time for me to do the whole sleeping thing, I guess things are about to get fun in 1DH.

Ain't that always the way? Protip: never sleep.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#316 - 2013-08-28 20:09:27 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


thanks for making a big chatbox out of the game


Don't you go blaming me for EVE's terrible interface design!

You sure are ungrateful after all the time Theta Squad has spent trying to teach you how to gank people.


nobody teached me a thing, and if some tried, I just did the complete opposite... you might should do that as well someday to make this game exciting and not so much predictable

There are screenshots of dudes talking to you in JU-OWQ local, trying to teach you how to properly bomb.

If you would like to chest thump on the forums about how you're a lone wolf who don't need no teaching then I can ask them to stop.


god you guys are so silly, man... they all just talk I know how the mechanics work, just stop it, grown ups ask if they need something, you guys behave so importunate... all what you told me I knew already from the web, why do you think I blocked most of the smartass?

10 bombs hit one did not, and you all jump on it and think help is needed... buaaa! go away, I hate this ****, you all just want to be important and show others how much you know, thats it, just wait until somebody ask please, that the right way to do it, you all end up repeating stuff and thats just anyoing

you want to help? just bomb the **** out of spacemonkeys or another CFC corb, nothing more needed...


If you want folks to stop trying to help you in local, then I will gladly ask them to stop.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#317 - 2013-08-28 20:10:02 UTC
Rellik B00n wrote:
The current path has always been leading towards a situation where the only people left to fight will be yourselves.

Or you will all get bored and there will be a massive vacuum followed by a long period of conflict.

I believe the original intent was to kill EvE and as far as I am aware that mandate has never changed, so maybe you could just do nothing.

As a parting word it is traditional that when you have beaten a game you start it again on the next difficulty level so if the entire Goonblock would like to 'give me its stuff,' you can do exactly that.

Why would we want to destroy something that we enjoy and have invested innumerable hours into?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#318 - 2013-08-28 20:11:14 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Khemax wrote:
I thought you guys were going to kill test off...as I see it test is still out there in numbers.

Make it your new war to not take tests systems but actually kill them off completely.
8k+ members is still loads fo targets to kill Twisted

Or if you want a real battle make it your task in life to kill off BL or PL (Sorry guys just the first names that came to mind)

Plenty of targets out there


The plan was to kick test out of fountain and take it for the cfc. Test might still have 8k members but they're spent right now. They barely put up a fight at their peak.


TEST is defeated. The number of EVE characters still in their EVE guild doesn't really mean anything.



Brings up a good point... what decided that? The simple loss of systems? That's not a war, that's just an operation. Like iraqi freedom.

If you want a WAR, pick up that dropped gauntlet and finish what you started.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#319 - 2013-08-28 20:16:14 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Rellik B00n wrote:
I believe the original intent was to kill EvE and as far as I am aware that mandate has never changed, so maybe you could just do nothing.

Confirming that our goal has always been to kill a game that thousands of us play and have enjoyed for years. Roll

Enjoying siegefleets since Fountain2013

Glad you like 'em!

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#320 - 2013-08-28 20:16:27 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
god you guys are so silly, man... they all just talk I know how the mechanics work, just stop it, grown ups ask if they need something, you guys behave so importunate... all what you told me I knew already from the web, why do you think I blocked most of the smartass?

10 bombs hit one did not, and you all jump on it and think help is needed... buaaa! go away, I hate this ****, you all just want to be important and show others how much you know, thats it, just wait until somebody ask please, that the right way to do it, you all end up repeating stuff and thats just anyoing

you want to help? just bomb the **** out of spacemonkeys or another CFC corb, nothing more needed...


You seem upset. Tell me all about it.


you are boring, thats it.

Your face is boring.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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