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Dave stark
#221 - 2013-08-27 18:32:28 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Give me a time zone and I will try to lead a fleet in it at least twice a week. :)

I'm EU time zone, personally. I doubt there's going to be a lack of EU fleets.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#222 - 2013-08-27 18:33:49 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Give me a time zone and I will try to lead a fleet in it at least twice a week. :)

I'm EU time zone, personally. I doubt there's going to be a lack of EU fleets.

Yeah, no. Vee is generally all over that. If you are afraid to fight Vee (and there's no shame in that), then I can pester him to let me lead some fleets in the EG ownzone.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Dave stark
#223 - 2013-08-27 18:45:12 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Yeah, no. Vee is generally all over that. If you are afraid to fight Vee (and there's no shame in that), then I can pester him to let me lead some fleets in the EG ownzone.

Why would I want to fight Vee? Assuming you are talking about who I think you're talking about then he's blue to me, apparently.

*shrug*
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#224 - 2013-08-27 19:11:56 UTC
I am dumb and the forums do not show you as blue. :shobon:

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#225 - 2013-08-27 19:15:22 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I am dumb and the forums do not show you as blue. :shobon:

You need to have personally set blue standings. The standard alliance ones do now show up.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#226 - 2013-08-27 19:16:34 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Mac Munoz wrote:
Apparently the Siege Fleet Bot that Lyris was has had a sufficient cool down and is ready for more action. My bomber is waiting.

Got things moved down to 1DH last night. Siege Fleet rides again tonight!

i hope the whole thread 'me wants attention" can be closed now?

We are fighting undefended structures at the moment. I would love for INIT. and 4O1k to actually fight us instead of run away in terror at the sight of 30 harpies.

Er, we only blob 30 harpies? What's going on here...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dave stark
#227 - 2013-08-27 19:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I am dumb and the forums do not show you as blue. :shobon:

You need to have personally set blue standings. The standard alliance ones do now show up.


Indeed, the only posters I see as blue are myself when I post from an alt when I get myself banned.
Ted McManfist
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#228 - 2013-08-27 19:23:41 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
nobody teached me a thing, and if some tried, I just did the complete opposite... you might should do that as well someday to make this game exciting and not so much predictable


Hi Harry! Lol
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#229 - 2013-08-27 19:30:20 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I am dumb and the forums do not show you as blue. :shobon:

You need to have personally set blue standings. The standard alliance ones do now show up.

Of course they don't! Why would they? :ccp:

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#230 - 2013-08-27 19:31:24 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Mac Munoz wrote:
Apparently the Siege Fleet Bot that Lyris was has had a sufficient cool down and is ready for more action. My bomber is waiting.

Got things moved down to 1DH last night. Siege Fleet rides again tonight!

i hope the whole thread 'me wants attention" can be closed now?

We are fighting undefended structures at the moment. I would love for INIT. and 4O1k to actually fight us instead of run away in terror at the sight of 30 harpies.

Er, we only blob 30 harpies? What's going on here...

I did a small roam last night limited to only 30 people in fleet, which included all of 10 harpies and 2 bursts. When confronted with this terrifying force, INIT. docked up.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#231 - 2013-08-27 19:32:45 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
If they wouldn't come up to the ice fields, how were they scanning Retrievers?
Have Goons got access to a magical device that scans ship fits over a vast distance?

You'd be surprised, but that miner next to you in the skiff that seems to have gone AFK with a full hold is actually passive targeting and scanning you.

hehe, nice hiding in plain sight, I thought as much and pointed out in my followup post, I've done it myself for the NO guys using a Procurer. But seriously scanning Retrievers? Waste of a scout when you can scan them with blasters and get the desired result every time.

As someone else stated earlier in the thread, two catalysts can kill a retriever regardless of how it's fit. Why scan it?
That person would have been me P

As for Rekon X leaving his NPC corp, I wasn't thinking about benefits for Goonswarm, I was thinking about the benefits for everybody else that likes to educate idiots through the medium of dance explosions EvilPirate

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#232 - 2013-08-27 20:11:02 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
On a scale of 1 to 10, how much would you mind losing this war and seeing your alliance and coalition dismantled?

Goonfleet/waffe/swarm/platoon has endured a lot throughout its history, and while it would undoubtedly make many people uncomfortable I don't think a lost war -- even one that caused the CFC to fracture -- would drive goons from the game. The worst case scenario for me is that I would go play some other game with goons rather than EVE Online; but, I don't think the goon guild in EVE would just give up and disband as a result of a lost war. We rally behind war and hardship, because that gives us a reason to log in and a cause to grit out teeth and fight for. Maybe you have some secret information that I don't about some existential threat to GSF or the CFC?


The question was more towards if you would care if you lost all your space. After being on the losing side of two sov wars, it isn't fun (unless you don't care about losing everything you and your friends have worked for). Do you care if you lose your space and assets that might be trapped? Are you willing to help friends and compatriots flee from the ruins of what was once your home region should you end up on the losing side? Even if the Swarm never disbands and Goonwaffe avoids being Kartoon'd again, how many will stick alongside you if you end up on the losing side of a war, and will you still stay with them if you lose all of the sov you have enjoyed for it's spoils and get to experience the joy of NPC nullsec?

My point being in this wall of text is that losing sucks unless you don't care; and if you don't care about losing and are ready to fight, then you either have to shed the blues beside of you or fight another coalition. Goonswarm is the largest alliance in terms of member count, outposts held, and systems secured (not counting renters) even though it barely uses a portion of that. With the current affairs of nullsec being as they are, coalitions don't want to fight each other because the stakes are too high for even a gambling man to risk them. The next war between the CFC and N3 will destroy one and cripple the other undoubtedly.


I think your questions are better posed at one of our senior leadership, or the senior leadership of N3, than at me.


Fair enough; but if you and others want a war that doesn't involve terrible levels of structure grinding and possible epic fights, then you have three options. Engage N3 or the New Southern Coalition, divide internally and begin war, or continue rolling over the smaller forces that can't really engage in a war with the CFC, at which point I would like to say that if the third option is chosen that you are just in it for the easy killmail generation factor, and not the want of a bloc level war.

Eve is what you make of it. If you want to be part of a group that has created a stagnant atmosphere across half of the galaxy, you are more than welcome to join. If you want something else, you have to go out and fight for it and try to push for it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#233 - 2013-08-27 20:14:38 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
if you and others want a war that doesn't involve terrible levels of structure grinding

Are you kidding me, this is the CFC you know.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#234 - 2013-08-27 20:19:19 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
if you and others want a war that doesn't involve terrible levels of structure grinding

Are you kidding me, this is the CFC you know.

As everyone in the CFC knows by now, I have no problem at all with structure grinding.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#235 - 2013-08-27 20:19:53 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
On a scale of 1 to 10, how much would you mind losing this war and seeing your alliance and coalition dismantled?

Goonfleet/waffe/swarm/platoon has endured a lot throughout its history, and while it would undoubtedly make many people uncomfortable I don't think a lost war -- even one that caused the CFC to fracture -- would drive goons from the game. The worst case scenario for me is that I would go play some other game with goons rather than EVE Online; but, I don't think the goon guild in EVE would just give up and disband as a result of a lost war. We rally behind war and hardship, because that gives us a reason to log in and a cause to grit out teeth and fight for. Maybe you have some secret information that I don't about some existential threat to GSF or the CFC?


The question was more towards if you would care if you lost all your space. After being on the losing side of two sov wars, it isn't fun (unless you don't care about losing everything you and your friends have worked for). Do you care if you lose your space and assets that might be trapped? Are you willing to help friends and compatriots flee from the ruins of what was once your home region should you end up on the losing side? Even if the Swarm never disbands and Goonwaffe avoids being Kartoon'd again, how many will stick alongside you if you end up on the losing side of a war, and will you still stay with them if you lose all of the sov you have enjoyed for it's spoils and get to experience the joy of NPC nullsec?

My point being in this wall of text is that losing sucks unless you don't care; and if you don't care about losing and are ready to fight, then you either have to shed the blues beside of you or fight another coalition. Goonswarm is the largest alliance in terms of member count, outposts held, and systems secured (not counting renters) even though it barely uses a portion of that. With the current affairs of nullsec being as they are, coalitions don't want to fight each other because the stakes are too high for even a gambling man to risk them. The next war between the CFC and N3 will destroy one and cripple the other undoubtedly.


I think your questions are better posed at one of our senior leadership, or the senior leadership of N3, than at me.


Fair enough; but if you and others want a war that doesn't involve terrible levels of structure grinding and possible epic fights, then you have three options. Engage N3 or the New Southern Coalition, divide internally and begin war, or continue rolling over the smaller forces that can't really engage in a war with the CFC, at which point I would like to say that if the third option is chosen that you are just in it for the easy killmail generation factor, and not the want of a bloc level war.

Eve is what you make of it. If you want to be part of a group that has created a stagnant atmosphere across half of the galaxy, you are more than welcome to join. If you want something else, you have to go out and fight for it and try to push for it.

I would love for N3 or the Southern Coalition to attack us. Why do you think I made this thread?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Dave stark
#236 - 2013-08-27 20:22:14 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Why do you think I made this thread?

For the same reason most people do; they're bored and have nothing better to do.
Mr Omniblivion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#237 - 2013-08-27 20:29:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Omniblivion
Lyris Nairn wrote:

As everyone in the CFC knows by now, I have no problem at all with structure grinding.


You can grind my structure any time Blink

Edit: ((Again Blink))
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#238 - 2013-08-27 20:35:22 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Why do you think I made this thread?

For the same reason most people do; they're bored and have nothing better to do.

That is an awfully odd way to say: "Never stop posting."

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#239 - 2013-08-27 20:36:02 UTC
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:

As everyone in the CFC knows by now, I have no problem at all with structure grinding.


You can grind my structure any time Blink

Edit: ((Again Blink))

Gonna be all over that when I get back home tonight.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
GreenSeed
#240 - 2013-08-27 20:56:29 UTC
wtf 90% of the posts per page are from the same poster...

someone needs an intervention.