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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-08-25 23:45:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Diablo Ex wrote:
Nullsec is the way it is because the SOV holders like it that way. If they really, and honestly wanted things to change they would make the changes...


Yeah, you're right, we really should change the sov system and the 1 station per system limit and the fact that even the best upgraded systems can only support 4-5 active ratters at once.

Change it by wanting it.




Malcanis I have to go with you but for something you haven't explained in your post, but all of us down in null understand where you're going: buff null in every shape and FORM so PLAYERS fcking want to go THERE !!

Did I made my self understand?

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#82 - 2013-08-25 23:57:40 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:

Malcanis I have to go with you but for something you haven't explained in your post, but all of us down in null understand where you're going: buff null in every shape and FORM so PLAYERS fcking want to go THERE !!

Did I made my self understand?


I don't understand this. There are lots of people in null. Everyone who wants to go there is already there.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-08-26 00:05:55 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:

Malcanis I have to go with you but for something you haven't explained in your post, but all of us down in null understand where you're going: buff null in every shape and FORM so PLAYERS fcking want to go THERE !!

Did I made my self understand?


I don't understand this. There are lots of people in null. Everyone who wants to go there is already there.



So you didn't understood me. There aren't enough players in null sec, this stupid place is not living enough, too many null sec systems EMPTY god dammit !!


And that only/because null sec sov is a stupid thing

Only/because null sec access to new entities is almost/close to/clearly impossible

Tons of high sec players would go there IF they had the FEELING they don't have to loose everything trying, notice the difference in between FEELING and true game, which is completely different.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#84 - 2013-08-26 02:25:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Only needs to be one supenova in EVE.... Jita.

Allow for some "ominous" yet suitably vague hints from "expert scientists" in the form of NEWS items... CCP likes it's fluff, afterall... and then watch the absolute terror and ensuing gankfest take over as 1,000's of freighters try to evac TRILLIONS of ISK worth of materials before the whole place vapourizes.

The economic shockwaves will be felt for years -- all the way out to and including NULL SEC -- and guaranteed to provide the incentive for various wars as sudden shortages of just about everything more complicated than T1 suddenly motivates people to get out and conquer, or at least protect their own interests.

Sure, a new "Jita" will eventually establish itself -- but EVE needs a good shakeup and it would be best if said shakeup didn't require vast amounts of manpower and dev time that are desperately needed elsewhere in the game.

And since CCP is already so fond of scripting things like a NYX crashing into stations (Malkalen, IIRC) and crashlanding a titan, all for the sake of "background story", I don't see scripting and patching in a supernova event, in Jita, as being any different.

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Diablo Ex
Nocturne Holdings
#85 - 2013-08-26 03:28:07 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
.... There aren't enough players in null sec, this stupid place is not living enough, too many null sec systems EMPTY god dammit !!


And that only/because null sec sov is a stupid thing

Only/because null sec access to new entities is almost/close to/clearly impossible

Tons of high sec players would go there IF they had the FEELING they don't have to loose everything trying, notice the difference in between FEELING and true game, which is completely different.


It's not just a FEELING...

I would happily, and quickly move to Nullsec if I wasn't automatically RED to everybody.
I've tried on a number of occasions to join Nullsec corps, I've only managed to get into a few Renters just prior to them failscading and moving back to highsec.

There is no reason to recruit, because there is no need for more people. The Nullsec economy will not support it. And if Nullsec were to be buffed under the current SOV system, Only the SOV HOLDERS would profit, and they are already far too wealthy. Anything you can do to improve Nullsec will only add more supercap blobs to the entrenched Holders. Sadly, Bots are far more trustworthy and capable than any potential awoxing player.

It is what it is....

Tell me I'm wrong because I live in Highsec.

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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#86 - 2013-08-26 04:08:07 UTC
Low/null are already too crowded imo.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-08-26 04:57:48 UTC
Diablo Ex wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
.... There aren't enough players in null sec, this stupid place is not living enough, too many null sec systems EMPTY god dammit !!


And that only/because null sec sov is a stupid thing

Only/because null sec access to new entities is almost/close to/clearly impossible

Tons of high sec players would go there IF they had the FEELING they don't have to loose everything trying, notice the difference in between FEELING and true game, which is completely different.


It's not just a FEELING...

I would happily, and quickly move to Nullsec if I wasn't automatically RED to everybody.
I've tried on a number of occasions to join Nullsec corps, I've only managed to get into a few Renters just prior to them failscading and moving back to highsec.

There is no reason to recruit, because there is no need for more people. The Nullsec economy will not support it. And if Nullsec were to be buffed under the current SOV system, Only the SOV HOLDERS would profit, and they are already far too wealthy. Anything you can do to improve Nullsec will only add more supercap blobs to the entrenched Holders. Sadly, Bots are far more trustworthy and capable than any potential awoxing player.

It is what it is....

Tell me I'm wrong because I live in Highsec.


You are wrong because you are an idiot. Not because you live in highsec.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#88 - 2013-08-26 06:19:30 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
You are wrong because you are an idiot. Not because you live in highsec.

Heh Shocked

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#89 - 2013-08-26 06:34:21 UTC
Just by scrolling over the avatars, and not reading the actual posts, I can tell how this entire thread is going.


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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#90 - 2013-08-26 06:53:42 UTC
Diablo Ex wrote:
I would happily, and quickly move to Nullsec if I wasn't automatically RED to everybody.
I've tried on a number of occasions to join Nullsec corps, I've only managed to get into a few Renters just prior to them failscading and moving back to highsec.

There is no reason to recruit, because there is no need for more people. The Nullsec economy will not support it. And if Nullsec were to be buffed under the current SOV system, Only the SOV HOLDERS would profit, and they are already far too wealthy. Anything you can do to improve Nullsec will only add more supercap blobs to the entrenched Holders. Sadly, Bots are far more trustworthy and capable than any potential awoxing player.

It is what it is....

Tell me I'm wrong because I live in Highsec.

You can join the CFC renters.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Josef Djugashvilis
#91 - 2013-08-26 06:56:08 UTC
See null-sec and die.

For many, including myself, this is the case.

Null-sec is fine for the odd visit, but for those of us not in large corp's or alliances, there is no real reason to stay there.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#92 - 2013-08-26 07:45:41 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:


Tons of high sec players would go there IF they had the FEELING they don't have to loose everything trying, notice the difference in between FEELING and true game, which is completely different.


Which makes it all the more baffling to me that everytime some hi-sec person (eg: the OP) wants to "improve" 0.0, the suggestion invariably revolves around making it more likely that people in 0.0 'loose' everything they have.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#93 - 2013-08-26 08:34:00 UTC
My daily dose of Harry. Lovely.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#94 - 2013-08-26 08:35:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Malcanis wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:


Tons of high sec players would go there IF they had the FEELING they don't have to loose everything trying, notice the difference in between FEELING and true game, which is completely different.


Which makes it all the more baffling to me that everytime some hi-sec person (eg: the OP) wants to "improve" 0.0, the suggestion invariably revolves around making it more likely that people in 0.0 'loose' everything they have.


all people are in high sec because thats where the daily action is! they run missions incursions etc., and nullsec bores the **** out of them! look at the map and wake up! you can not play the game in nullsec, its just waiting, waiting for bigger fights waiting for targets!

only me and a few others go to null each day and search for it! I was there 4 month, a good 300-400 hours at least... I know whats going on, you think its the risk why people do not go there, no man! the reason is its ******* boring out there! because of people like you!!

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#95 - 2013-08-26 09:01:10 UTC
harry harry harry.... 4 months?

28th May you were still banging on about the procurer investment fund and hanging round Gallente L1-2 missions in Essence, mining in a venture between missions and hauling your ore/loot to Jita.

11th June you got round to asking about where the bat cave was, and 18th you did your epic threadnaught of giggles so, unless I slept and missed a month or two, 4 months is stretching it a teeny tiny bit.

It is ofc possible that you put in 400 hours in null between mid june and mid august, or whenever it was this month that you decided to get out of null.

On topic:


As you were often told in your channel - it is not because null is boring that people dont go there....it is many reasons, and, it could be argued, shooting cynos and PI ships is waaaay more boring than shooting red crosses.

I do not know if you have become aware of this harry, as, although it was mentioned to you several times, listening is not one of your core skills...but, anyway, there are in fact missions in null! So, its not because of the missions people stay in high sec....try and see if you can figure out why it is that people do not take their high sec mission ships to run missions in null.

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Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#96 - 2013-08-26 09:05:34 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
harry harry harry.... 4 months?

28th May you were still banging on about the procurer investment fund and hanging round Gallente L1-2 missions in Essence, mining in a venture between missions and hauling your ore/loot to Jita.

11th June you got round to asking about where the bat cave was, and 18th you did your epic threadnaught of giggles so, unless I slept and missed a month or two, 4 months is stretching it a teeny tiny bit.

It is ofc possible that you put in 400 hours in null between mid june and mid august, or whenever it was this month that you decided to get out of null.

On topic:


As you were often told in your channel - it is not because null is boring that people dont go there....it is many reasons, and, it could be argued, shooting cynos and PI ships is waaaay more boring than shooting red crosses.

I do not know if you have become aware of this harry, as, although it was mentioned to you several times, listening is not one of your core skills...but, anyway, there are in fact missions in null! So, its not because of the missions people stay in high sec....try and see if you can figure out why it is that people do not take their high sec mission ships to run missions in null.


Harry you got a channel? whats it called?

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William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#97 - 2013-08-26 09:08:05 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
Harry you got a channel? whats it called?

"SpaceJunkys Chat" I think. He removed it from his bio. I also think the mailing list is down, such a shame.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#98 - 2013-08-26 09:08:31 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
Rhivre wrote:
harry harry harry.... 4 months?

28th May you were still banging on about the procurer investment fund and hanging round Gallente L1-2 missions in Essence, mining in a venture between missions and hauling your ore/loot to Jita.

11th June you got round to asking about where the bat cave was, and 18th you did your epic threadnaught of giggles so, unless I slept and missed a month or two, 4 months is stretching it a teeny tiny bit.

It is ofc possible that you put in 400 hours in null between mid june and mid august, or whenever it was this month that you decided to get out of null.

On topic:


As you were often told in your channel - it is not because null is boring that people dont go there....it is many reasons, and, it could be argued, shooting cynos and PI ships is waaaay more boring than shooting red crosses.

I do not know if you have become aware of this harry, as, although it was mentioned to you several times, listening is not one of your core skills...but, anyway, there are in fact missions in null! So, its not because of the missions people stay in high sec....try and see if you can figure out why it is that people do not take their high sec mission ships to run missions in null.


Harry you got a channel? whats it called?


it was called SpaceJunkys, but I tropped it because all the people forgot to play the game while chatting

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#99 - 2013-08-26 09:11:43 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
Rhivre wrote:
harry harry harry.... 4 months?

28th May you were still banging on about the procurer investment fund and hanging round Gallente L1-2 missions in Essence, mining in a venture between missions and hauling your ore/loot to Jita.

11th June you got round to asking about where the bat cave was, and 18th you did your epic threadnaught of giggles so, unless I slept and missed a month or two, 4 months is stretching it a teeny tiny bit.

It is ofc possible that you put in 400 hours in null between mid june and mid august, or whenever it was this month that you decided to get out of null.

On topic:


As you were often told in your channel - it is not because null is boring that people dont go there....it is many reasons, and, it could be argued, shooting cynos and PI ships is waaaay more boring than shooting red crosses.

I do not know if you have become aware of this harry, as, although it was mentioned to you several times, listening is not one of your core skills...but, anyway, there are in fact missions in null! So, its not because of the missions people stay in high sec....try and see if you can figure out why it is that people do not take their high sec mission ships to run missions in null.


Harry you got a channel? whats it called?


it was called SpaceJunkys, but I tropped it because all the people forgot to play the game while chatting



Ah yeah , reading.talking about eve is sometimes even mor fun lol

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#100 - 2013-08-26 09:12:53 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
harry harry harry.... 4 months?

28th May you were still banging on about the procurer investment fund and hanging round Gallente L1-2 missions in Essence, mining in a venture between missions and hauling your ore/loot to Jita.

11th June you got round to asking about where the bat cave was, and 18th you did your epic threadnaught of giggles so, unless I slept and missed a month or two, 4 months is stretching it a teeny tiny bit.

It is ofc possible that you put in 400 hours in null between mid june and mid august, or whenever it was this month that you decided to get out of null.

On topic:


As you were often told in your channel - it is not because null is boring that people dont go there....it is many reasons, and, it could be argued, shooting cynos and PI ships is waaaay more boring than shooting red crosses.

I do not know if you have become aware of this harry, as, although it was mentioned to you several times, listening is not one of your core skills...but, anyway, there are in fact missions in null! So, its not because of the missions people stay in high sec....try and see if you can figure out why it is that people do not take their high sec mission ships to run missions in null.


just do us a favour and stay in your chatbox, you got no clue about playing the game

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm