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Incursion griefing getting kicked into high gear

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#21 - 2011-10-29 03:01:57 UTC
Moustached Slimy Worm wrote:

As our diplomat, I have to say that whether or not our reasoning is flawed is irrelevant because we're more able to exercise power than BTL and thus we are right.


OK. GG.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#22 - 2011-10-29 10:43:32 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:

Now, I don't like highsec Incursions. It's not that we think less of incursionbears than we do of, say, mission-bears. It's that incursions in high sec pay too damn much. It's basically some of the best money in the game outside of owning a tech moon and therefore all kinds of people are just sitting in highsec doing those, rather than doing something more creative or going out to null or whatever. In our opinion, it's a stagnating influence.


And you think you know beter, what people should do... go grow up.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

carmelos53
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2011-10-29 12:44:50 UTC  |  Edited by: carmelos53
To clear the air I never once said I was part of btl. Infact I've told skunkworks many times who I represent. Hec the wardec is even publically stated in our motd. Just because skunkworks has the intellect of lemiwinks from south park isn't my problem.

Now down to business, you aren't killing our pilots, you are killing pilots from incursion local. This isn't a personal dec. I chipped in 5mill total. All it took was a few mails and a 2 minute motd change before enough people donated. That's what happens to you when you grief in eve btw -you make enemies and get decced.

I really like the fact that you guys think you're so awesome because you can flip a 6 month old new to eve players whom are defenseless while you melt their logi. To make your case worse I hear everytime you guys get decced you just Corp jump so your poor little ships don't die.

You're not pvper you're carebears picking on newbies and vets with simple can flip aggression tactics offgrid. Enjoy it while it lasts the decs won't stop until you guys grow some balls and fight for a week. That's what the community asked for and paid for. It stops when you stop. I told you I'm just an alt toon messenger and if I quit eve tomorrow your problems wouldn't stop.

So I ask you... How do you plan ransoming every single carebear that donates 1mil to dec a griefer. Good luck with that. Even if ccp removes incursions 1mil is pocket change.

It makes me laugh when griefers cry on the forums and have to ask for help because they aren't able to handle a simple war dec. FYI 12 other corps are decced they aren't dropping Corp. They are accepting pvp and enjoying it. If you only intention is to get kills and not expect to take a loss...


Piece of advice: maybe you guys should start running lvl 2 missions? Who knows you might be good at it. There are even walk throughs on this cool Internet Thingy called google! It's amazing.

Your tears = best tears

And to anyway ccp mod that has to lock this post I apologize but it needed to be said.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#24 - 2011-10-29 14:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
carmelos53 wrote:
To clear the air I never once said I was part of btl. Infact I've told skunkworks many times who I represent. Hec the wardec is even publically stated in our motd. Just because skunkworks has the intellect of lemiwinks from south park isn't my problem.


"We had a convo with God Squad and they claimed that a bunch of people from the BTL channel hired them to dec us."

What you lack in reading comprehension, you make up for in keyboard pounding.

carmelos53 wrote:
I really like the fact that you guys think you're so awesome because you can flip a 6 month old new to eve players whom are defenseless while you melt their logi. To make your case worse I hear everytime you guys get decced you just Corp jump so your poor little ships don't die.


The funny part is when you made it sound like we're concerned about losing ships. We corp hop to accomplish goals, and occasionally to avoid being swarmed by mercenaries who will only fight when they have more neutral logi than we have pilots (not referring to God Squad, who we happen to like). We're not in NPC corps to hide from GS, we're in NPC corps so that we are free to pursue our goals. Free lesson in warfare: fighting by proxy just reveals you as weak. We're demonstrating just how weak you are. If you want to fight us, come fight us. Don't hire others to do your dirty work so that you can continue making absurd amounts of isk risk-free.

Monk used part of something I wrote. Here's the rest:

"At the Skunkworks, we don't fight by proxy. We don't hire mercenaries to stand in for us. And when other people do so, we go around the mercs and take the fight to our true enemies. For this reason, The Skunkworks has declared an unoffical war on BTL Pub and incursions in general. What started as casual griefing to pass the time will become a full-time occupation until we tire of it. If you thought Slimy Worm was bad, now he's bringing friends."

Spin it how you want, but Incursion bears paid for a war with it. They're getting what they paid for.

carmelos53 wrote:
Enjoy it while it lasts the decs won't stop until you guys grow some balls and fight for a week. That's what the community asked for and paid for. It stops when you stop.


It stops when the casual incursion runners gets so tired of our campaign that they beg all you self-righteous incursion bears to drop the dec against us because they can't get a fleet because everyone is so terrified of losing ships.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

carmelos53
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2011-10-29 14:50:52 UTC  |  Edited by: carmelos53
Lol impressive. You counter by spreading lies instead of sticking to the facts.
#1 I told god squad incursion runners are hiring them
#2 god squad specifically stated incursion runners and never once used the term btl. I was shown the chat logs. God squad kept up their end of the bargain.
#3 the only reason you are picking on btl is because you can't manage to get enough alts to influtrate the tdf channel
#4 you are only killing people outside of our channel
#5 we don't need to war dec with 50 corps when one will do and even if we did you still dropped Corp as yu have before
#6 you dont fight to begin with period unless you are the aggressor.
#7 we've had people claiming to be tough before and 4 months of decs normally stops it so fight or hide
#8 you aren't in a position to offer terms and even if you happen to gain the upper hand we have never and will ever agree to your terms even if it's 1isk
Big mistake making this post public . Now everyone knows you guys can't defend yourselves. The only time your pvp griefer Corp gets on kms is when they have no chance.

We've had 4 other cases like skunkworks. It took almost half a year to shut then down we don't mind the long wait & I find it funny you are stating public terms.

Here are our terms: replace every single kill you have ever been been a part of and 10 monocles.
Gazmin VanBurin
Boma Bull Corp
#26 - 2011-10-29 15:00:21 UTC
Sufficient to say, some incursion bears got mad that we where helping the eve economy and highered mercs to "deal" with us. And like any good corp would do, we are rasing the stakes, regaurdless of who highered the mercs.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2011-10-29 17:12:33 UTC
Stop all the talking, get to action and start linking killboards and stuff.
Everyone is just measuring e-peen in this thread right now. Cry
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#28 - 2011-10-29 19:53:50 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Stop all the talking, get to action and start linking killboards and stuff.
Everyone is just measuring e-peen in this thread right now. Cry


Last I heard it was against the rules to link killboards. Look me up on BC, I think I've been on the most kills (unless they got an early start today)

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#29 - 2011-10-29 20:04:48 UTC
carmelos53 wrote:
#3 the only reason you are picking on btl is because you can't manage to get enough alts to influtrate the tdf channel.
#4 you are only killing people outside of our channel


Challenge accepted.

carmelos53 wrote:
#5 we don't need to war dec with 50 corps when one will do and even if we did you still dropped Corp as yu have before


Working As Intended (tm) Pirate

carmelos53 wrote:
#6 you dont fight to begin with period unless you are the aggressor.

...Big mistake making this post public . Now everyone knows you guys can't defend yourselves. The only time your pvp griefer Corp gets on kms is when they have no chance.


Do your homework better next time.

carmelos53 wrote:
#7 we've had people claiming to be tough before and 4 months of decs normally stops it so fight or hide


We stop when we're bored, or you capitulate. We'll see which comes first.

carmelos53 wrote:
Here are our terms: replace every single kill you have ever been been a part of and 10 monocles.


An excellent counter-offer. I'll gladly replace each ship with a suitable substitute, once I have prepared the proper claims form. At that point, each purported victim will need to complete the form and wait 2-3 weeks for us to process the paperwork and see to the ship replacement. And don't think I'm making this up, I'll have the form ready by tomorrow night barring unforeseen circumstances.

Unfortunately, I cannot accommodate your request for monocles. To date we have destroyed at least 27 ships, and supplying only 10 monocles would create an obvious distribution problem. I suspect those monocles would never reach anyone actually harmed by these events, and would instead remain with you and your cronies, denying compensation to the victims. I know how people like you work.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-10-29 20:07:47 UTC
http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=8

Campaign says 11b in two days. There's some choice kills in there. Nightmares and whatnot.
DART MOUTHE
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2011-10-29 20:36:59 UTC
I endorse this product and/or service. Pirate
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2011-10-29 21:29:34 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=8

Campaign says 11b in two days. There's some choice kills in there. Nightmares and whatnot.


*acknowledges*
Nice work, any possibility of getting videos?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#33 - 2011-10-29 22:02:00 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=8

Campaign says 11b in two days. There's some choice kills in there. Nightmares and whatnot.


*acknowledges*
Nice work, any possibility of getting videos?

I need to get FRAPS registered and start recording. It's planned, yes.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#34 - 2011-10-29 22:35:03 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=8

Campaign says 11b in two days. There's some choice kills in there. Nightmares and whatnot.


*acknowledges*
Nice work, any possibility of getting videos?

I need to get FRAPS registered and start recording. It's planned, yes.


Cool,
by the way. My alliance just got wardecced by some russian roleplayers claiming to be fighting for Sansha.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry Lol

Time for some fun \o/
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#35 - 2011-10-30 09:09:44 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Now, I don't like highsec Incursions. It's not that we think less of incursionbears than we do of, say, mission-bears. It's that incursions in high sec pay too damn much. It's basically some of the best money in the game outside of owning a tech moon and therefore all kinds of people are just sitting in highsec doing those, rather than doing something more creative or going out to null or whatever. In our opinion, it's a stagnating influence.


Monetization of Incursions was a immersion breaker and took away from the effect of those live event incursions. I have seen incursions last for days while the Revanent sits there.


I would support an end to incursions of the end of respawning sites at the point of carrier appearance IF and only IF the Tech Moons are taken out as well.

Why should one kind of space have a mega-ISK pump and the other not?

But then who needs ISK anyway?


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Cerisia
Red Phoenix Rising
The Burning Contingent Alliance
#36 - 2011-10-30 09:41:47 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=8

Campaign says 11b in two days. There's some choice kills in there. Nightmares and whatnot.


*acknowledges*
Nice work, any possibility of getting videos?

I need to get FRAPS registered and start recording. It's planned, yes.



Actually you can use the free version of fraps, it just has Fraps written at the top of the screen.

Other than that there's no difference.
This space for rent..
carmelos53
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2011-10-30 12:25:33 UTC
I'm a gambling man. Care to put a wager on this?

Call it a channel test for security. If you can influtrate our channel and do it with me in fleet I will send monk 100m AND I will even eat my pride and offer you a war dec contract in a few months if you guys are still functional. If I catch you once all I'd like in return is an acknowledgement here. Now I keep my promises, contracts and wagers.

So what say you sir?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#38 - 2011-10-30 17:01:29 UTC
Cerisia wrote:
Actually you can use the free version of fraps, it just has Fraps written at the top of the screen.

Other than that there's no difference.


Last time I used the free version, it limited clips to 30 seconds.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#39 - 2011-10-30 17:06:59 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
carmelos53 wrote:
I'm a gambling man. Care to put a wager on this?

Call it a channel test for security. If you can influtrate our channel and do it with me in fleet I will send monk 100m AND I will even eat my pride and offer you a war dec contract in a few months if you guys are still functional. If I catch you once all I'd like in return is an acknowledgement here. Now I keep my promises, contracts and wagers.

So what say you sir?


I say you'll probably be so incredibly cautious after making this bet that it'll cost you income that we can't account for, and that nothing will ever come of this bet because of that. But I'm willing to play along. As I understand it, the challenge is to get a ship in a fleet with you and transfer aggression before being called out. We'll let you know if/when that happens.

edit: Of course, since you're speaking from an alt we'll have no way of knowing we got you, but you'll be able to call us out. One-sided "bets" ftw.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

carmelos53
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2011-10-30 20:10:34 UTC
This is my Inc toon so I'll use this and drop the second box to make things fair. Btw to make sure this is done properly paying others in fleet off doesn't grant you a victory understood?