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Why no new space since WH's?

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#61 - 2013-08-23 12:33:08 UTC
Lasikia wrote:
How many years will we have to wait for some new space to be added? For space to be so vast and infinite you cant do 2 jumps in any system in eve without tripping over someone.

Where is the exploration? the far reaches?

What makes you think you've discovered everything already?

It could be said that you're putting the cart before the horse in asking for new systems before fully understanding the wormhole network...
Of course fully understanding the wormhole network may no longer be possible since that Buzzard was killed but who knows...

There should never be so many systems in game that we can all have one each - whenever you have two or more people in a system you have a potential conflict for resources, with a system each there would only be the development of an heirarchy, stagnation and the eventual death of the concept.
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-08-23 12:33:14 UTC
Seriously tho we don't need more systems.. We need to change what you can do in each system. Have stuff to take over, destroy, build up on. Hate to say it but take some things from Guild Wars 2 and turn their castle building into big ship stations that can be built and defended..........
Lady Areola Fappington
#63 - 2013-08-23 12:52:37 UTC
I'll agree, but in a different way that what you are thinking. Please pre-note, this is all relative to K-Space. I've got little interaction with W-space.

The problem is not with the number of systems, it's perfect intelligence systems built into EVE. As many have said, K-space is basically empty, outside of highsec. Actually settling one of those systems for your own, though, is a rocky prospect, as the perfect intelligence of the all-mighty Map will give you away.

With perfect intelligence, it won't matter how many systems we put in. You go off for 100 jumps to your border homestead, within 30 minutes, a gang of ruffians comes to visit because they know SOMEONE is there.


If I had my one thing to fix in EVE, that would be it. Map info would be granular, Fog of War styled. Make the information sharable, encourage patrols of claimed systems, stuff like that.

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ISD Tyrozan
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ISD Alliance
#64 - 2013-08-23 19:01:23 UTC
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2013-08-23 19:21:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
I'm not sure if this still is still true, but there has only been one person who has been confirmed to have visited EVERY system in New Eden.

We don't need more space. Leave highsec and you'll find that if anything, we need LESS of it.

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Cade Windstalker
#66 - 2013-08-23 19:35:29 UTC
Lasikia wrote:
Demica Diaz wrote:
What would you do in that space?




Totally enjoy not having you or anyone else around. I can pay to play my way? No. I pay money to CCP so everyone else in the game gets to dictate to me how I can and can not play.

The groups of people that wish to impose their will on me decide for me how and when I can do anything, this is in essence why EVE has a very small, teeny tiny player base, you can see it if you look closely beside that red plus in the overview.



This is the view of a new player. Which is why they leave.

I pay to play so I can blow people up, and educate them as to why they should not play EVE.


I'm sorry, but this entire game is oriented around player interaction. If you wish to run around and not interact with others you can avoid a lot of player interaction in high-sec, Wormhole Space, or just running around in an empty piece of null-sec. Eve does not have a "PvE Only" server option, you may be confusing this with a different game, possibly involving more Elves and Pandas or some such.

If you really have so much of an issue interacting with other players then there are a large number of single-player space games offering gameplay similar in nature to Eve (the X series springs to mind).

Also on the subject of paying money to CCP. You pay money to CCP to play the game they have made, not to have them make the game you, personally, want to play. If you want your own custom designed game then I suggest you go find ~5 million dollars and a dev team willing to surrender creative control over to you. I suggest Kickstarter.
Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-08-23 20:42:59 UTC
Do you realize space is already monopolized. The mega corps will own every inch. They need natural events. Like plasma storms or space life forms..
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-08-23 22:38:03 UTC
There are so many systems that are constantly empty that I can tell you have never been there or explored entire zones.

I want to make low-sec smaller and bring the 4 FW zones together (and eliminate allies) so we can have four-way FFA brawls instead of two 1v1's
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#69 - 2013-08-24 07:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarn Kugisa
Mara Rinn wrote:
Leave hisec? There's plenty of space outside hisec, and many systems where you'll be the only one present for hours at a time.


This
Make some certian systems in null annoying to travel (bubbles on all the gates), and you have a instant empty system

Despite all the sov space, most of it is empty (look at the average pilots in space on the world map). Most of the empty sov space is just there for the purpose of r32/64 mining and not much else.


If CCP were to add much more nullsec space then they would have to fix null. That would require outposts to not suck and POS's to be more usable as a large base.

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