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So, I want to gank

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#121 - 2013-08-23 20:54:30 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
In over 3 years of Ice Mining I have yet to ever see a Freighter in an Ice Belt.....and I'm not kidding.


We killed six such freighters in the opening days.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#122 - 2013-08-23 20:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
baltec1 wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
In over 3 years of Ice Mining I have yet to ever see a Freighter in an Ice Belt.....and I'm not kidding.


We killed six such freighters in the opening days.


Unbelievable.

But then out where I am, there are no Rookie systems anywhere even near, and most are somewhat older, established players that know how to do things properly.

That's all I can figure.


edit: This is why I fled the Caldari/Mimatar/near-Gallente nonsense a long time ago.

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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#123 - 2013-08-23 21:38:23 UTC  |  Edited by: E-2C Hawkeye
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

I am always glad when someone tells me what my own words mean. The number was thrown out there wasn’t meant to be a specific number but as a arbitray number. It could have just as easily been 50 60 80 or 100.

You forum trolls always want to argue semantics. Please carry on.

1. ar•bi•trar•y
ˈärbiˌtrerē
adjective
adjective: arbitrary
1. 1.
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
"his mealtimes were entirely arbitrary"

So the number 30 has gone from figurative (it wasn't), to gross excess (it was) and now it's arbitrary (made up on the spot)? Do you even read your own posts? Are you in fact Ace Uoweme's main? or are you genuinely an accidental troll?

E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
So it's ok for you to use blatantly false premises, misrepresent quotes, use absolutes and otherwise do exactly what you claim to have a problem with? That smacks of hypocrisy, or Government.

You mean like your quote?
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#124 - 2013-08-23 21:42:53 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.

did anyone say that

I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#125 - 2013-08-23 23:01:14 UTC
Quote:
Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.


So... you're all over this thread for the purpose of saving us from "broad brush" statements? Yeah, gonna call trolling on that one, buddy.

Especially since you are throwing a fit about things that no one in this thread has even said. You are literally throwing a tantrum over nothing. If some other thread said one of these apparently grievously offensive statements, go complain at them. You're seriously out of line here.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#126 - 2013-08-24 01:27:18 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

I am always glad when someone tells me what my own words mean. The number was thrown out there wasn’t meant to be a specific number but as a arbitray number. It could have just as easily been 50 60 80 or 100.

You forum trolls always want to argue semantics. Please carry on.

1. ar•bi•trar•y
ˈärbiˌtrerē
adjective
adjective: arbitrary
1. 1.
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
"his mealtimes were entirely arbitrary"

So the number 30 has gone from figurative (it wasn't), to gross excess (it was) and now it's arbitrary (made up on the spot)? Do you even read your own posts? Are you in fact Ace Uoweme's main? or are you genuinely an accidental troll?

E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
So it's ok for you to use blatantly false premises, misrepresent quotes, use absolutes and otherwise do exactly what you claim to have a problem with? That smacks of hypocrisy, or Government.

You mean like your quote?

How so? What's your beef with my use of your post? Have I used a false premise? misrepresented your post? used absolutes? taken it out of context?

Your pithy one liner explains little.

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Gillian Darkstar
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#127 - 2013-08-24 07:36:43 UTC
I totaly can't remember who said it or why but as for miners being like invulnerable I'm totally down with that. I have a little bit of an annoucement to the EVE world, I mine, sometimes. I know i feel somewhat dirty saying it and like not the good kind of dirrty like christina aguilera kind of dirrty whom I'd love to get dirrty with, but the kind of dirty which means I'll be spending like an hour or more in a shower scrubbing all over.

Its just that every now and then my corp like to get together drink various types of booze totally talk **** about all sorts of stuff and occasionally fire off some mining lasers, and with this in mind i totaly ok with miners being invulnerable, but like only when I'm mining. I could totally like post a time table or something like that and during those times people who are miners would be like totally invulnerable. miners could even like pay me to go mining so they could be like safe to mine, and on the other hand ganksters could like pay me not to mine so they can be like gankstering miners.

I totally feel the above idea are of the awesome and need CCPs immediate attention so i can start getting paid, i mean so miners can be safe
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#128 - 2013-08-24 07:55:36 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.

did anyone say that

I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case.

you care enough to rant about it
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#129 - 2013-08-26 13:16:48 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.

did anyone say that

I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case.

you care enough to rant about it

Rant? lol if your hearing ranting while you read anything I post then that is in your own head. I don’t believe you can hear or feel anything that anyone types except that which you give it.

If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old …heck half the time he is more mature then some of the “adults” I see posting.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#130 - 2013-08-26 20:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old …heck half the time he is more mature then some of the “adults” I see posting.
Maybe you should ask your 17 year old for some advice on being mature, because you come across as being their younger sibling.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2013-08-26 20:53:10 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Rant? lol if your hearing ranting while you read anything I post then that is in your own head. I don’t believe you can hear or feel anything that anyone types except that which you give it.

If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old …heck half the time he is more mature then some of the “adults” I see posting.

~i just complain a lot about issues i don't care about~

~not that i care~
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#132 - 2013-08-26 21:00:41 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.

did anyone say that

I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case.


There are 7 pages of posts here. You claim that you're posting here because of the alleged use of phrasing that you feel is inaccurate. That you can't find said phrasing indicates something.


Also, if you tank your ship, you are less likely to die. Just like a Freighter full of Tritanium is less likely to be ganked than one full of Thulium.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#133 - 2013-08-26 21:04:02 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Rant? lol if your hearing ranting while you read anything I post then that is in your own head. I don’t believe you can hear or feel anything that anyone types except that which you give it.

If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old …heck half the time he is more mature then some of the “adults” I see posting.

~i just complain a lot about issues i don't care about~

~not that i care~

Yes I noticed that already.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#134 - 2013-08-26 21:06:57 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old …heck half the time he is more mature then some of the “adults” I see posting.
Maybe you should ask your 17 year old for some advice on being mature, because you come across as being their younger sibling.

That is from trying to speak on your level so you may understand better. Doesn’t look like that is working however. Moving forward I will try to dumb it down for you even further in hopes that you may grasp some simpler concepts.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#135 - 2013-08-26 21:12:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old …heck half the time he is more mature then some of the “adults” I see posting.
Maybe you should ask your 17 year old for some advice on being mature, because you come across as being their younger sibling.

That is from trying to speak on your level so you may understand better. Doesn’t look like that is working however. Moving forward I will try to dumb it down for you even further in hopes that you may grasp some simpler concepts.

No need to dumb it down on my behalf, I'm more than capable of understanding complexity.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#136 - 2013-08-26 21:20:28 UTC
cat fight Lol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#137 - 2013-08-26 21:28:36 UTC
maturity: making personal attacks when questioned
E-2C Hawkeye
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#138 - 2013-08-27 13:27:19 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
maturity: making personal attacks when questioned


Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that don’t really matter.

In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they don’t have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#139 - 2013-08-27 14:10:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
maturity: making personal attacks when questioned


Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that don’t really matter.
Wow, being called a troll by you is ironic, I've rarely seen you post anything remotely constructive, considerate or helpful, please do carry on lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.

Quote:
In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number.
You mean the arbitrary number that went from figurative to gross excess and then on to arbitrary? If you'd have said arbitrary in the first place then my only quibble would have been the number 30, because saying things "I like the morons that can't get that it doesn't matter what you tank when they bring 30 destroyers.", although true in the literal sense, is spin and misinformation of the worst kind when we're talking about ganking miners, which while offtopic is a related subtopic, 30 destroyers is almost a parody.

The only scenarios I can think of in ganking that would need 30 destroyers would be an Orca or freighter, and even then it may well be excessive *needs clarification as I'm unsure of the actual amount of destroyers required for these scenarios*

Quote:
From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they don’t have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
You yourself are guilty of posting crap to draw attention away from the fact that you had no valid point to bring to the discussion, and instantly denigrated anybody that disagreed with you, that smacks of hubris.

If, however, you had actually made a valid point relating to the topic, and subtopics, that have been brought up instead of just exaggerating, and hadn't gotten your knickers in a twist when people called you out on it, then maybe, just maybe, you would have got some decent counter arguments and debate. Although I doubt it because you're just a poor sad excuse for a troll.

Before you start blaming others for the responses to your posts, you should try reading them.

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#140 - 2013-08-27 14:29:02 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that don’t really matter.

In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they don’t have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.


You are a bad poster.

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