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im tired of it, anyone want to join me?

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tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-28 17:38:09 UTC
I have come and gone on this game a lot of times. I always fall into the same routine of missioning for a month or two and getting bored. I come to the forums and ask the same repetitious questions. What to do? corp help? skill build? best ship? how to make iskies?

well, im , quite frankly tired of it.

last night, i logged in and stared off into space looking at my training que. Realizing , im not falling into the trap. I am not going to wait while skilling up.

So, tonight , i am going to log in, sell off some of the junk i have and take my 50mil isk and buy about 10 frigs.

Im going to fit them cheap, then, im going to hop into my frig and im going to find people and shoot them. I will shoot at anything that i fly across, i will start by doing it when i undock so i can learn what happens, i will then venture to system to system, learning things like scanning etc that i read about but never apply.

I am determined to annoy, harass, get lost in space and not sit in my hanger looking at my pve mission runners in high sec space.

So, if anyone wants to help me learn the ins and outs of pvp and what not tonight hit me up in game,

if any new players want to join me in being cannon fodder for a few hours tonight hit me up. i'll be starting my trial by fire learning experience tonight around 10 est.

I have had a hard time finding corps, learning, progressing in eve. I've read about 1,000 pages on eve and understand things, but without application i feel that i'll be intimidated by everyting beyond high sec.

i know its a cheesy post but this is going to be either a new beginning for me or a final hurrah in eve.

If you see me flying around and want to blow me up, or help me out with advice, or just follow me for lols, i am going to shoot at everything till i learn.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2011-10-28 18:10:08 UTC
^^ This guy gets it.

If you need ships, I'll gladly take your ISK Twisted

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-10-28 18:19:10 UTC
hehe, i can fly rifters, gallente frigs. was cross training to fly a machariel and realized how long it was gonna take , it was kinda my que to start this.

if u can sell them to me reasonable and even suggest some cheap fittings that'd be nice, i've got around 10mil sp and im clueless , i will not resort to afk'ing in my domi on lvl 4's.

i want to find the guy who originally suggested i go that route and blow him up first.
Opie Winston
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-10-28 18:33:34 UTC
Have you tried the industry side of Eve, or only PvE? I've tried PvP, PvE, and industry, only to find out that I enjoy the industry side of Eve, and not so much the combat side. If you haven't tried industry, or are willing to give it another shot, contact me in game and we can figure out how to get you to enjoy the game, and then find a way to make you some isk. Hope to hear from you. Or you can stop by Apogee Public.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2011-10-28 18:37:08 UTC
fittings generally work out well like this:

hi --> guns
mids --> AB, point
lows --> DCU II, damage and or tank mods
rigs --> helpful ... but not "cheap"

Bear

for specifics, I imagine the "Ships and Fittings" thread can help better than I...

tbh though, getting into a corp would probably help you out the most.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-10-28 18:38:31 UTC  |  Edited by: tempus deathbringer
i was on battleclinic looking at loadouts.

7mil at my 50ish mill budget is a bit high,

can any of you suggest a bit cheaper loadouts , im going to just be dying but i want the "chance" of blowing someone up.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/54565-Incursus-238-dps-OH-YEAH.html#values

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Have you tried the industry side of Eve, or only PvE? I've tried PvP, PvE, and industry, only to find out that I enjoy the industry side of Eve, and not so much the combat side. If you haven't tried industry, or are willing to give it another shot, contact me in game and we can figure out how to get you to enjoy the game, and then find a way to make you some isk. Hope to hear from you. Or you can stop by Apogee Public



i dont even know where to begin in industry, alli know is that i built this domi character and i drop drones, and get bored out of my mind in mission running.

i'd rather steal people's loot and risk dying, or build stuff and sell , i just dont like ratting and lvl 4'ing for money but it's all i have ever known, and i almost got into the same rut again and i dont want to waste my $4.95 this month lol
DeliciousHamBeast
The Elenianlightenment
#7 - 2011-10-28 18:44:28 UTC  |  Edited by: DeliciousHamBeast
tempus deathbringer wrote:
i was on battleclinic looking at loadouts.

7mil at my 50ish mill budget is a bit high,

can any of you suggest a bit cheaper loadouts , im going to just be dying but i want the "chance" of blowing someone up.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/54565-Incursus-238-dps-OH-YEAH.html#values


It looks like it's just the scram making that 7 mil, would drop to 4 or so without I think (at least according to that eve central list of dubiousness).

You could always t1 fit too.

Edit: Just to be clear, DO fit a scram, just maybe a cheap one.

-- Beep Beep Imma Jeep.

Opie Winston
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-28 18:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Opie Winston
We have the knowledge and ability to help you get started on your industry career. Manufacturing and such. Hit me up in game tonight. I'm usually on from 8 pm to 11pm ish Central.
DeliciousHamBeast
The Elenianlightenment
#9 - 2011-10-28 18:49:32 UTC
Also if you're looking for an alternative isk source, it may be worth trying exploration. Can be dull, can be dangerous (Assuming you're not in highsec), and it can be damn profitable. The unpredictability is what draws me to it, and combined with manufacturing I make enough isk.

-- Beep Beep Imma Jeep.

Aida Nu
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-10-28 19:32:43 UTC
@OP

Started out almost 3 weeks ago and did missions and stuff. Boring as hell.
Couple of days ago i bought 10 kestrels, fitted them cheap and headed out to lowsec.
So far ive had 2 glorious deaths! No kills yet but hopefully that will change Big smile

Check out this thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=26214
tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-10-28 19:43:11 UTC
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Also if you're looking for an alternative isk source, it may be worth trying exploration. Can be dull, can be dangerous (Assuming you're not in highsec), and it can be damn profitable. The unpredictability is what draws me to it, and combined with manufacturing I make enough isk.


didnt even know there was an "exploration" profession really, i just thought exploring in eve was as simple as just getting lost.

i found a cheaper loadout, will probably do some variation of this one.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/39546-Cheap-pvp-incursus.html



Velicitia
XS Tech
#12 - 2011-10-28 19:52:29 UTC
yeah, for exploration you will need:

1. Imicus (note, this is gallente, each race has a scanning frigate ... )
2. Probe Launcher
3. Core Scanner Probes
4. Some luck
5. some guns and basic fitting on the ship to handle combat sites (Magnetometric)
6. Codebreaker and Analyser for doing hacking sites (IIRC, Radar)
7. Friends who want to mine in Gravimetric sites you find
8. Brass balls if you decide to go through that unstable wormhole you find.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

DeliciousHamBeast
The Elenianlightenment
#13 - 2011-10-28 20:46:47 UTC
tempus deathbringer wrote:
Quote:
Also if you're looking for an alternative isk source, it may be worth trying exploration. Can be dull, can be dangerous (Assuming you're not in highsec), and it can be damn profitable. The unpredictability is what draws me to it, and combined with manufacturing I make enough isk.


didnt even know there was an "exploration" profession really, i just thought exploring in eve was as simple as just getting lost.

i found a cheaper loadout, will probably do some variation of this one.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/39546-Cheap-pvp-incursus.html


As Velicitia said, exploration mostly just requires scanning probes and some luck. There are some ships that are capable of finding and running radar/mag sites on their own - I used to do this in lowsec with a cloaky arbitrator (whole fit was ~10mil isk, mail me if you're curious). You'll need reasonably good scanning skills (astrometrics et al.) and maybe even an implant to successfully scan down some of the sites though, since these ships don't get the scanning bonus.

Check it, peep exploration wiki entry.

Best of luck on your pewpew adventures.

-- Beep Beep Imma Jeep.

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2011-10-28 21:20:09 UTC
Make sure you check out Red Vs Blue!
Zeratul Kerrigan
#15 - 2011-10-29 19:45:43 UTC
Heya mate. If you're looking for someone to PvP with. I will gladly join you. Contact me and we can go :) nice attitude, keep that attitude and you will go far my friend!
darmwand
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#16 - 2011-10-29 20:31:59 UTC
Hi!

I was in a very similar situation a couple of months ago, bored to death by droneboating through missions. I joined a low-sec piracy corp that explicitly recruits inexperienced players and teaches them the fine art of killing stuff in low-sec (or piracy, as some might call it).

If you think this might be something for you, rather than starting your own thing, feel free to drop me a note in game and I'll tell you more. If not, I'm looking forward to seeing you on the other end of my blasters. Either way, I'm sure you won't regret your decision to abandon your career as a mission-runner and instead enjoy ruining your security status.

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."

tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-10-31 16:10:49 UTC  |  Edited by: tempus deathbringer
so an update.

friday was a bit rough in terms of getting it done. As soon as i logged in , i got quite a few chat messages and about 4 or 5 people wanting me to join their corp.

i may have come off as standoffish because everytime i've played i've been in "new" or "small" corps where i end up soloing. So if i seemed a little annoyed after asking the question and leaving at the response it's nothing personal just that i dont want to rely on 2 people to log in to have fun.

So after a while i figured if i chatted to much i'd never get anything done and im not playing aol IM i was determined to blow stuff up.

i bought 5 incursus fit them with all t1 stuff etc. i spent a few minutes trying to learn the map, fit my ship using the link i provided.

i undocked and flew to perimiter, 1.0 sec. i warped to an asteroid belt. i saw some guy afk in an osprey.

locked target, orbited at 500m, launched drones, and unloaded fire.

it was very shortlived as concord game and popped me in a few seconds. So, i took my pod back to jita, docked and started reading again. i fit another ship and looked for low sec space. I really had a hard time finding anything, as i don't know how to scan and i don't really know what im doing.

the realization that hit me after talkign to people is that this really isnt as open ended as people say. Or i may be wrong but im assuming in low sec, your really only going to find people experienced in pvp, so going there as a noob is just a deathwish.

i nearly died about 20 times as i gated through in low sec .

tonight, i have a bit more time as i had to put some serious hours into work this past weekend. Im going to head back out to low sec and try again.

one funny story was , one of the corps inquring about joining hitme up.

I was in voice but they didnt know so as i typed responses to their questions, it finally boiled down to me saying.

"listen guys, when i say new, i mean, here is my knowledge of eve totally. I have guns to draw aggro, i dont even know what those guns are useful for, i dont use them to shoot anything, in fact i dont know the difference between a railgun and a autocannon. I warp into mission, fire guns, drop drones and then loot. That is the extent of my eve knowledge."

i really wanted to get a point across that i've been playing this game from the wrong perspective and that , i would need my hand held for quit ea while.

a few seconds later one of the guys says in chat "i think we gotta throw this fish back in the pond" .
Velicitia
XS Tech
#18 - 2011-10-31 16:43:37 UTC
You're right in that lowsec is generally "home" to people more experienced in PVP (as there's no CONCORD, you need to know how to fight to survive). However, that isn't to say that you don't have a chance of catching another newer player who is trying to do the same thing as you.

if you "nearly" died twenty times (I'm assuming that was with one ship) -- you got away from a bad situation twenty times. Take the small victories when you can. Some of the easiest ways to find a fight in lowsec are:
1. the gates (i.e. someone else's gatecamp)
2. check out the belts (make it look like you're ratting in a PVE fit ship)
3. look weaker than you are (note, this may fail as the other guy may take you as bait for a hotdrop)
4. learn to probe and use the Dscan to find people.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

GM Spiral
Game Master Retirement Home
#19 - 2011-10-31 16:43:40 UTC
Nice to see someone take the red pill. Big smile

As someone may have mentioned above, search for a corporation that takes in inexperienced players. Having a good support structure around you when you inevitably lose your stuff (again and again) is invaluable. Plus, there are some genuinely nice and entertaining people out there worth talking to and learning from.

I used to root around the Molden Heath low sec areas now and then. years ago, but I am too old for that now. Sad

Senior Game Master | CCP Games Customer Support Team

Helping capsuleers since 2004.

tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-10-31 16:55:50 UTC
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4. learn to probe and use the Dscan to find people.


this is going to be my goal when i get in game tonight.

I fit the other ships i bought friday. Today my goal is to find some pvp in low sec.

I would like to find a corp, but im wary as i've always rejoined and gotten into very small corps. The eventuality turned into me drone afk'ing. If people do have suggestions on any large pvp corps willing to take a unskilled but quick learning pilot feel free to drop a plug for them.

the other thing is that , isk will be hard to come by as i've read that in pvp life you take huge hits to status making it hard to really do anything of value and pirating is very hit or miss in making money.

i have another character on another account, was thinking of just making an exploration character, then trying industry if i dont like moving on down the road trying the money makers other than missioning.

Is it possible to make enough isk as a new player to support my sub? the resub is only 4.95 so no biggy but i'd like to make the money to afford to pay for my account within the first month.
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