Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So for those in FW, I'm sure you've noticed the farmers. Stabbed, cloaked ships that orbit buttons that add no content other than running at anything that shows up within 1AU on Dscan.

Just as a regular example, here's what's wrong with the system as it is now :
[IMG]Quadrouble Stabs FTW[/IMG]

The variation is 3 stabs and a cloak on a T1 frigate, usually an atron due to the slot layout (guns and spare highslot for cloak with 3 lows for stabs)

This play style adds no content to the game. They are avoiding PvP as well as PvE, as once the ONE rat in the plex is dead they literally sit and just run down their timer.

For those of you who suck at this game, you'll probably try to say that this argument is due to "OMG HE JUST WANTS TO KILL EASY PLAYERS." To those, a cursory glance at my kill board shows I have developed a excellent system in killing these farmers. My objective here is irrelevant, other than the ending of this farming.

Obviously, we cannot ban warp core stabs or cloaks in fits, as that would adversely affect legitimate game play. To solve these problems, the button (the structure in the middle) could become a structure that can target any player running down the timer, which prevents a cloak. To nullify the stabs, either the equivalent of a interdiction bubble, or perhaps a focused warp disruption(that switches targets every 30 seconds, and has a range about 20km past the button range) would prevent no-risk timer running down. The target switching is there to not adversely affect legitimate pvp. A solo player should not be affected by this, as they can just burn out when on dscan. An afk plex alt will be affected, as by definition of AFK means they aren't looking.

Now this isn't a fully developed system or solution, but it is a problem that I'm bring ing more to light. I welcome alternatives from those who aren't obviously trying to preserve the broken system as it is now.

Fixed.

Consensual EvE'ing. Sounds kinky.

No, only to posts that purport to “solve” some kind of problem without explaining what the actual problem is or why it needs to be solved.

If you say so… But I don't think anyone who has actually played the game will agree with you.

Yes, I got that, but that's just him being annoyed that people aren't getting into fights with him, not a design problem. FW is designed to be content you compete over. If someone has figured out a way to compete over it without shooting people, then that's not really a problem unless there is no way to compete back…

…but the OP doesn't mention any such problem — only his annoyance that the competition isn't competing the way he wants them to. Hence the question: what's the problem? Because if all it is is that people aren't playing the game the way the OP want them to, then that's not a problem at all.

I agree with Tippia. He sacrificed all his lows on stabs, if you want to compete with that guy, fit all your mids with scramblers. Problem solved!

Easy solution would be that if you leave plex timer resets after 15 or so seconds, to protect against DC.

''We can not ban/remove warp core stabs.'' Why not? I'd gladly see warp stabs removed from the game.

As for cloaking, I'd like to see a probe method that can decloak a ship on solar map alongside an on grid area effect field that decloaks ships. I am aware of the hard code issue around cloaks but if wishes were horses.

Nonono, you see, this is working as intended; FW is/was intended as an easy access gateway to PVP for newer players, so teaching them that sometimes someone gets away, is just part of life!

"Pirates" and "PVPers" in EVE (and other games) are under the impression that is it their right to kill other players. Not because the victim was doing something in particular or because the victim was in a particular place, but because the victim exists. Therefore, when the "pirates" or "PVPers" 'right' to killing is violated (when someone gets away), they feel "robbed" of a kill, because in their world view, once a victim is in sight that player is rightfully his to kill and has no right to get away.

But of course the reality of things is that when someone tries to kill you, or you know you are going into a situation where people will be trying to kill you, you will try and take actions to prevent that. For example "pirates" and "PVPers" will fit resist mods and extenders/plates/rep mods and perhaps make use of logi ships for precisely that reason!

How about a system where when YOU land on grid all opposing player suffer a full system shut down so they are unable to do anything?