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LOGI Ganking in Inursions

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Odemis
Death By Design
#41 - 2011-11-03 02:56:35 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Odemis wrote:
Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.

My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.



No Signature Required


What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics.



Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.

  1. Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
  2. Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
  3. I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
  4. Tie 2 of us down and kill us
  5. Run to the forums
  6. ?????
  7. Profit?


What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard"

Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p
Goose99
#42 - 2011-11-03 03:19:00 UTC
Odemis wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
Odemis wrote:
Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.

My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.



No Signature Required


What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics.



Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.

  1. Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
  2. Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
  3. I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
  4. Tie 2 of us down and kill us
  5. Run to the forums
  6. ?????
  7. Profit?


What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard"

Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p


Ever heard of concorken?Lol
Odemis
Death By Design
#43 - 2011-11-03 03:24:29 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Odemis wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
Odemis wrote:
Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.

My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.



No Signature Required


What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics.



Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.

  1. Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
  2. Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
  3. I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
  4. Tie 2 of us down and kill us
  5. Run to the forums
  6. ?????
  7. Profit?


What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard"

Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p


Ever heard of concorken?Lol


^^^^^^^^^
Don't know how to read so well huh?
Shinigami yama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2011-11-03 07:51:15 UTC
I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!!
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-11-03 08:39:39 UTC
(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.

Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics

No Worries

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#46 - 2011-11-03 10:07:13 UTC
Goose99 is a complete tard and posts **** all over every thread he thinks he knows something about.

He's near totally clueless and will eventually back out of thread once you link the exact reason he is wrong.

Goose, a hint, it's not just logi ships that can gather aggression.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Shaidar Hussan
HelloKittyFanclub
#47 - 2011-11-03 10:25:45 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.

Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics

Meh, incursions are the best way to make money in this game outside of (possibly) nullsec or C5 and higher WHs. They're a completely risk free ISK generating screw up on the part of CCP, and I for one am glad that someone is making them more dangerous. These guys should be given a medal.

Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards you'd see they've killed a lot of shiney faction battleships. Total module drop for yesterday's kills on the Skunkwork's killboard was about a billion ISK. Since lowsec is pretty much dead now highsec ganking incursion fleets seems like the only realistic way for a pirate to make any money. Kudos to them for having the patience to do it.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2011-11-03 17:07:01 UTC
Shaidar Hussan wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.

Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics

Meh, incursions are the best way to make money in this game outside of (possibly) nullsec or C5 and higher WHs. They're a completely risk free ISK generating screw up on the part of CCP, and I for one am glad that someone is making them more dangerous. These guys should be given a medal.

Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards you'd see they've killed a lot of shiney faction battleships. Total module drop for yesterday's kills on the Skunkwork's killboard was about a billion ISK. Since lowsec is pretty much dead now highsec ganking incursion fleets seems like the only realistic way for a pirate to make any money. Kudos to them for having the patience to do it.

well. if they can't be good pirates maybe they should try to do something different? Cool
like carebearing..... lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
#49 - 2011-11-03 20:12:10 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Shaidar Hussan wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.

Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics

Meh, incursions are the best way to make money in this game outside of (possibly) nullsec or C5 and higher WHs. They're a completely risk free ISK generating screw up on the part of CCP, and I for one am glad that someone is making them more dangerous. These guys should be given a medal.

Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards you'd see they've killed a lot of shiney faction battleships. Total module drop for yesterday's kills on the Skunkwork's killboard was about a billion ISK. Since lowsec is pretty much dead now highsec ganking incursion fleets seems like the only realistic way for a pirate to make any money. Kudos to them for having the patience to do it.

well. if they can't be good pirates maybe they should try to do something different? Cool
like carebearing..... lol


The definition piracy(in this instance) is justified. Are they not profiting? Seems like they're doing a pretty good job to me. The modern eve pirate is one who takes advantage of game mechanics and uses it to their advantage. As you can see lowsec/null just isn't what it used to be.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#50 - 2011-11-03 21:14:32 UTC
Shinigami yama wrote:
I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!!


5/10. Talk about phoning in effort, this is a pitiful troll (I hope).

We're just following the money. When it was in wormholes, that's where I spent most of my time. Now it's incursions, and we've found a unique way to profit from them.

And if you think it's easy listening to idiot after idiot drone on in fleet comms while we set them up, you're one of the idiots and your opinions are not valid :)

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#51 - 2011-11-03 21:17:39 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics


I love people who seem to think that their way of PVP is the equivalent of Queensbury rules. A "real PVP corp" either plays the n+1 game of nullsec or the neutral rr/station games of high sec. I see very little "toe to toe" combat in Eve. You should really give up this pretense of your style of fighting being "fair" because it almost never is.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#52 - 2011-11-03 21:21:10 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards

That's cheating! You're supposed to make assumptions based on your limited understanding of game mechanics and your preconceptions about others!

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2011-11-03 21:55:00 UTC
Floppie gets combo points for posting in a row like that.
Goose99
#54 - 2011-11-04 01:03:53 UTC
Shinigami yama wrote:
I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!!

ChromeStriker wrote:
(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.

Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics


But that stuff is dangerous, he might lose his boat.Lol

The whole point of logi ganking is that anyone other than the logi that's been shot don't get aggro, and will get concorken for shooting the ganker. You see, real pros pvp against logi under concord protection.Cool
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#55 - 2011-11-04 01:18:23 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
The whole point of logi ganking is that anyone other than the logi that's been shot don't get aggro, and will get concorken for shooting the ganker. You see, real pros pvp against logi under concord protection.Cool


Somewhere, someone is building a monument to this impressive display of ignorance.

Seriously, you have no idea what's been happening. You should stop posting.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Skarned
Inroads
#56 - 2011-11-04 13:47:28 UTC
The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned. Roll
Goose99
#57 - 2011-11-04 14:29:45 UTC
Skarned wrote:
The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned. Roll


Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken.Cool
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#58 - 2011-11-04 16:21:13 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken.Cool


The funny thing is, last I saw Skunkworks was at war with Inroads. Nope, he's not one of ours :)

And ffs, it's CONCORDOKKEN. If you're going to pretend you know what you're talking about, at least try to get the terms right. And concordokken isn't even a thing any more, that stunt was removed like a year ago.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Skarned
Inroads
#59 - 2011-11-05 02:39:28 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Skarned wrote:
The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned. Roll


Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken.Cool


A couple of months ago I watched a Logi that I killed get blamed for voilencing his fleet because none of their logis lived. How stupid is that? Pretty ******* stupid, just like most incursion bears.
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2011-11-05 02:48:31 UTC
Skarned wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
Skarned wrote:
The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned. Roll


Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken.Cool


A couple of months ago I watched a Logi that I killed get blamed for voilencing his fleet because none of their logis lived. How stupid is that? Pretty ******* stupid, just like most incursion bears.


I have yet to find a crowd in MMOs that didn't have its fair share of idiots.

The closest I ever came was tiny (3-6 player) pvp clique in WoW. Even then we had to let in retards because we needed warm bodies to do more content.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?