EVE General Discussion

There has been a few thread written by other Japanese and non-Japanese players discussing the upcoming NEXON payment system for Japanese players.
This is related to it, but its another topic, a concern raised in Japanese forums regarding the use of BOTs in NEXON games other than EVE.

One of the fellow Japanese player filed a petition regarding the use of BOTs in other NEXON games than EVE and use the earned NEXon points to buy in PLEX, and he got a not-so-ambiguous answer from CCP.

The returned answer was "弊社としてはEVE以外のBOTに関する質問にはお答えできません。", which says "CCP cannot answer questions regarding any use of BOT in any other games but EVE Online."

If above is true, you can create a NEXON bot account (know that this is bad thing in their game TOS and you risk yourself a ban), let it earn about 100 USD or so a month, buy in the Plexes and transfer it to whoever's account.
CCP's TOS only affects those BOTs in EVE Online, and NEXON games are "KNOWN" for not caring a bit about fighting bots farming.
Bot-earned Nexon points in Maplestory are often used in Mabinogi (I know too many friends who play for free from it), or bot-earned points in Mabinogi used in other games like EVE. Apparently, they don't ban you so often unless u are a hacker (my friend hasn't been banned at all running 10 bots for 2 years).

CCP gets money whenever someone pays them a PLEX with NEXon Point, and doesn't care one bit about their use of BOT in "other games"....

Well, after April 1st, next year, what do you think would happen? EVE Market collapse? PLEX price down?
I don't know about economy of EVE, but I sure hope the Mr.Dr-in-Economy knows how big the effect will be...


Please give us your open opinions, fellow ship huggers!

You don't use BOT in EVE Online, you use BOT in NEXON, NEXON is a Korean based publisher who also is big in Japan, and recently CCP "partnered" up with them. They are 2 Different companies.

If my understanding is correct, this is exactly the story.
And NEXON is known for their complete inability to track down or do anything about fighting bots.
There are also many "professional" chinese botters companies who "live" on botting as their daily job.
Yes, u can even cash out from NEXON games using illegal RMT and they never ban you.
But I think you don't even need to cash out using chinese RMT company at a lower rate, cuz you can send them off to EVE.
Mabinogi has a big bot loophole which (if you exploit correctly) could earn you 1000 a month, or so I've heard.
(I've never played Maplestory myself.)

This!

I really don't care if some NEXON games get botted to hell and back. If those game developers want to fund CCP all the better. You can be certain that CCP will get paid for each PLEX created.

Really there is no different between botting those games to pay for PLEXs and botting the stock market to pay for PLEXs. CCP gets paid, and there is no impact on the game market aside from an increase in subscriptions, which is a good thing.

hmm, maybe then I might do it when it comes, sounds like easy setup and it grinds forever, why play missions anyway, i should recommend any EVE players to do it then

Actually, if you know that the money is stolen then you have a legal obligation (in the US at least) to not accept the stolen money as payment for services. Or if you do accept the stolen money you have the legal obligation to not "intentionally deprive the original owner of their property" - meaning that you must return it to it's rightful owner.

This is why when bots pay for their subscriptions with stolen credit cards, CCP doesn't get to keep the subscription revenues from the charges made to stolen credit cards.

So where do i sign up to get my Bots running in another game so it can pay for my EVE accounts?????

Nothing says Free-to-play like botting a free-to-pay game to pay for me games.

BARBIE WANTS NEW SHOES

They work a similar way as PLEX do, except they have much less security over their bot policy, and allows you to carry over your Nexon Point throughout their game archive, allowing you to exploit in one game, spend it on the other.
Oh, and those games NEXON has are "Free-To-Play" so you don't need to grind 420m per month per account.

Someone buys NEXON point by cash, and buys items which are listed by real players "or bots".
With their bot policy, its almost a free giveaway.

There isn't much difference between this and for example botting in WoW (not allowed), then RMTing Gold to cash (not allowed) and use that money to buy a plex (legal) and get that into EVE.

The illicit action takes place outside of EVE and thus outside of any of CCPs influence and jurisdiction.

Also as DarkAegix correctly recognizes, it affects another's game economy negatively, not EVE's (unless the influx of PLEX is going to act negatively on the market). I actually prefer that to EVE market affecting bots, knowing that as long as botting is possible and worth it, someone is going to do it. In the end though, it's no different in effect than what I wrote in the first sentence.

At which point in any of the possible processes described in this thread was ISK created again?