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My Experience

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#101 - 2013-08-23 00:55:22 UTC
see people this is what happens when an entire generation gets participation awards for loosing the match... stupid feelings.

what happened to the good ol days that when you lost that hockey game you felt bad not good because you got a lousy medal for loosing...

fyi feeling bad is a good thing to learn cuss life is not even remotely fair..

to the op watch out for reality its going to bite your sheltered ass.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2013-08-23 07:21:39 UTC
Lasikia wrote:
I would seriously suggest you pick a different game, this ones really just suited for the worst of humanity, and given the small player base it has, we can be thankful that most all of the online gaming rejects and human scum is here and not in other games.

Says the person still playing. How does it feel to be an online gaming reject, the worrst of humanity and human scum? Welcome to our world! /hugs

Stop projecting your insecurities ffs
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#103 - 2013-08-23 08:46:45 UTC
This thread needs more cuddles and huggles.

Or just a hellpurge of the weak.

Empyrean Warriors - Recruiting now.

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#104 - 2013-08-23 09:29:26 UTC
Sevindaes Merchance wrote:
Dear CCP,

Are you happy with the current player base ?
Is 20 to 30 thousand players at any one time enough ?
Is losing more than 90% of new players within the first 2 months ok ?

Answer yes then ignore this post.

I think my time in Eve is over, while traversing a 0.4 region to get to a level II mission giver, to increase my standings, so I could install jump clones, I got podded (first time). Second time in a lowsec region I think, yes this happens all the time, yes it was my decision to go through the gate; but the relevance for me was how I felt. Empty, like when my grandpa died, a deep felling of loss and I began to question why I was playing Eve at all. I did not feel angry or upset, or care about the loss of the ship and isk. I have a second account that mines while I play the main, I can easily replace the ship 10 times over. The significance is the empty feeling, I have never experienced that in any other game.

I read a post that said over 90% of new players quit Eve in the first 2 months, didn’t think I would be in that group, stayed in hisec, built up my skill levels, built up isk reserves, intended to try the less secure systems, eventually, learnt how everything fitted together, bought and sold on the market. Now I don’t know if I want to play, I knew I would lose ships and get podded, eventually, that is part of the game mechanics; but it is how I felt when it happened for real that surprised to me. I have lost ships running NPC missions, that wasn’t the same, I was trying to kill them and they me; the podding last night was me minding my own business and accidently running into a gate camp, someone elses little war. Strange that I felt the way I did, still trying to understand my feelings.

With respect to how the game works and the questions to CCP, my assumption is that CCP are happy to lose over 90% of new players, otherwise they would change the game. But if they wanted to keep new players the flaws I see in the game are core to the game mechanics and would be difficult to change.

Skill training is simply too long. To have the ability to compete with older players, six months to a year of real time may not be enough.

Skills are too many and too complex, it is difficult to determine the training path necessary for what you want to do. (I wasted over 2 weeks training skills I didn’t need to at the time)

System travel, while realistic, is simply too long. Over half an hour of real time to travel less than 20 jumps is a waste of my game time.

Too few NPC missions, and none that teach you relevant skills. But that is another story.

Please don’t see this as a complaint, or QQ because I got podded.
I just want to relate my Eve experience. Of all the games I have played Eve has the most potential and is the closest to a true sandbox. I just don’t feel motivated any more.

Cheers


I too felt emty after I lost my first venture to a group of 5 people in lowsec, I was suprised how sad it was, felt like a kid with a nice toy and some other angry kid just destroyed it... don't listen to the others, it just shows that you are still human wherelse many others here lack those feelings... EvE needs more players like you, it already is flooded with those midless robots out there
WooMod
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2013-08-23 09:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: WooMod
Sevindaes Merchance wrote:
but the relevance for me was how I felt. Empty, like when my grandpa died, a deep felling of loss and I began to question why I was playing Eve at all


You are comparing to getting blown up in a game to your grandpa died?

What the christ, anything else you say just becomes irrelevant after such a statement.


PS: My entry has been great, goonswarm are the best to newbees.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#106 - 2013-08-23 09:38:18 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

I too felt emty after I lost my first venture to a group of 5 people in lowsec, I was suprised how sad it was, felt like a kid with a nice toy and some other angry kid just destroyed it... don't listen to the others, it just shows that you are still human wherelse many others here lack those feelings... EvE needs more players like you, it already is flooded with those midless robots out there

Luckily cyno ships and T1 industrial PI haulers are filling that void, Harry. We need more people like you, Harry. Giving it to the man and their cyno ships, taking down their infrastructure one ship at a time. Keep it up, King of Highsec, protector of the 4 realms.

ヽ(⌒∇⌒)ノ へ(゜∇、°)へ (◕‿◕✿)

Josef Djugashvilis
#107 - 2013-08-23 09:55:47 UTC
Dear Spenser for Hire, Tippia is very much like my younger brother, who always wants to have the last word.

The secret is to let them have that last word as quickly as possible.

Life is just easier when you do.

This is not a signature.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#108 - 2013-08-23 09:57:26 UTC
Sevindaes Merchance wrote:


Please don’t see this as a complaint, or QQ because I got podded.


But that's exactly what it is.

Why did you ignore the warning that pops up when you try to jump out of hi-sec?

Why did you go back to lo-sec after losing a pod there the first time?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#109 - 2013-08-23 11:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
William Walker wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I too felt emty after I lost my first venture to a group of 5 people in lowsec, I was suprised how sad it was, felt like a kid with a nice toy and some other angry kid just destroyed it... don't listen to the others, it just shows that you are still human wherelse many others here lack those feelings... EvE needs more players like you, it already is flooded with those midless robots out there

Luckily cyno ships and T1 industrial PI haulers are filling that void, Harry. We need more people like you, Harry. Giving it to the man and their cyno ships, taking down their infrastructure one ship at a time. Keep it up, King of Highsec, protector of the 4 realms.


yea bitter have been those cynotears, and those haulers pop even faster with my bombs... keeping the universe in balance every day Cool my new bomber is called cockroach :D just the right place for deklein - EvEs cesspit :D
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#110 - 2013-08-23 13:58:20 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
William Walker wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I too felt emty after I lost my first venture to a group of 5 people in lowsec, I was suprised how sad it was, felt like a kid with a nice toy and some other angry kid just destroyed it... don't listen to the others, it just shows that you are still human wherelse many others here lack those feelings... EvE needs more players like you, it already is flooded with those midless robots out there

Luckily cyno ships and T1 industrial PI haulers are filling that void, Harry. We need more people like you, Harry. Giving it to the man and their cyno ships, taking down their infrastructure one ship at a time. Keep it up, King of Highsec, protector of the 4 realms.


yea bitter have been those cynotears, and those haulers pop even faster with my bombs... keeping the universe in balance every day Cool my new bomber is called cockroach :D just the right place for deklein - EvEs cesspit :D

Which new bomber is that? You seem to lose them daily, you "epic PvP guru" you.

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Lucas Irvam
The Anodyne Consortium
#111 - 2013-08-23 14:04:07 UTC
This is so weird, because last week I was at my grandpa's funeral, and in the middle of the service I leaned over to my sister and whispered, 'This is feels just like when I lost my Caracal in lowsec. That empty, sinking feeling. Hey, now that I think about it, was grandpa insured?'.
Din Chao
#112 - 2013-08-23 14:15:43 UTC
I stopped reading at the part where you equated the feeling of losing your pod to the feeling of your grandfather dying.


**** you.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#113 - 2013-08-23 14:27:54 UTC
Lucas Irvam wrote:
This is so weird, because last week I was at my grandpa's funeral, and in the middle of the service I leaned over to my sister and whispered, 'This is feels just like when I lost my Caracal in lowsec. That empty, sinking feeling. Hey, now that I think about it, was grandpa insured?'.
More importantly, did you get in on the killmail?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Spenser for Hire
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-08-23 15:05:53 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dear Spenser for Hire, Tippia is very much like my younger brother, who always wants to have the last word.

The secret is to let them have that last word as quickly as possible.

Life is just easier when you do.

Tippia is the ONLY one that responded, more or less point by point, to what I was saying, so I totally understand why you'd think I was trying to get in the last word there. However, that is NOT what I am attempting to do.

It was a post by a player, a NEW player, who was describing all the activities that he was aware of in the game, all the activities that EVE Online presented to him. And NOTHING of what he said had anything to do with activities in a Null-Sec, Low-Sec Corporation or Alliance. As we all know, at some point, that New Player will be told that he has been playing the game wrong. He will be told that if he is not in Null-Sec/Low-Sec PvP he is playing the game wrong.

Why ignore this contradiction, this Bait & Switch, this exploitation of the gamer???

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Spenser for Hire wrote:

I wouldn't want to get into a discussion of the "legality" of it, as, A) This is the Internet. B) CCP is headquartered in Iceland. C) CCP does things that an American corp wouldn't dream of. ie. encourage drinking, and display drunken, and or hung-over young players at live streamed events.



THAT came to a loud sudden announced halt over a year and a half ago. Stop exaggerating your case. It helps not.

I knew I should have explained that remark a little more fully.
B) CCP is headquartered in Iceland. C) CCP does things that an American corp wouldn't dream of.
By which I mean to say: that the Legal, Ethical, political system in Iceland is obviously vastly different from that in America. As is evidenced by the fact that for years CCP encourged drinking and would even display drunken, and/or hung-over young players at live streamed events.

That is also a comparison. that is, it is compared to; Why hasn't CCP ended the Bait & Switch of EVE Online's development??? That's still going strong.

Don't ask me to post with my main! You post with your main first!

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#115 - 2013-08-23 15:53:03 UTC
Spenser for Hire wrote:

C) CCP does things that an American corp wouldn't dream of.




Erm....EA trolled it's 20 year Veteran Fans of Simcity quite nicely this year, thank you.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Josef Djugashvilis
#116 - 2013-08-23 16:37:27 UTC
Dear Spenser for Hire, I obviously did not express myself clearly, for that I apologize.

My point is that Tippia always wants to have the last word.

Let him have the last word as soon as possible.

It makes life easier.

This is not a signature.

Malimbachi Arjar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2013-08-23 18:56:40 UTC
Wow, this thread is still going? Watching it for days, thinking it would die out soon. Roll