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New T3 Battlecruiser what skills?
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Alistair Croup
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-10-28 12:30:34 UTC
Has ccp said whdat skills we will need for these lovely ships? Would be great to be ready opening day to be ready to drop the nessary skill books and go! Tornado frw!
Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-10-28 12:35:59 UTC
Probably safe to assume Battlecruisers V, possibly Command Ships 3-4. I find it interesting that although they are reffering to them as T3, there is no mention of subsystems. In fact I would guess that they will not use sybsystems, as CCP has stated in a Dev Blog that they want them to be fairly common, and subsystems are both costly and training intensive.

In lieu of CCP providing the skillplan to pilot on eof these new lovely ships, we at least know that they can fit BS sized weapons, so I would suggets beefing up skills related to your racial weaponry. Although I would also welcome any additonal suggestions or a CCP statement on what sort of skills will be required.

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Alistair Croup
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-10-28 12:49:26 UTC
So do you think its safe to assume that cruiser 5. Luckly my gunnerys maxed out already w large autui and artillery specs at 5.
Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-10-28 12:52:51 UTC
Alistair Croup wrote:
So do you think its safe to assume that cruiser 5. Luckly my gunnerys maxed out already w large autui and artillery specs at 5.


I would trai up BC skill to 5 first, then if you still have time work on cruiser.

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Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#5 - 2011-10-28 12:59:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Mashie Saldana
Ran'shad wrote:
Probably safe to assume Battlecruisers V, possibly Command Ships 3-4. I find it interesting that although they are reffering to them as T3, there is no mention of subsystems. In fact I would guess that they will not use sybsystems, as CCP has stated in a Dev Blog that they want them to be fairly common, and subsystems are both costly and training intensive.

In lieu of CCP providing the skillplan to pilot on eof these new lovely ships, we at least know that they can fit BS sized weapons, so I would suggets beefing up skills related to your racial weaponry. Although I would also welcome any additonal suggestions or a CCP statement on what sort of skills will be required.

They are NOT TECH 3, they are tier 3, as in you need BC level 3 and racial cruiser 3 to fly them. Just like you need Caldari Cruiser 3 and BC 2 to fly a tier 2 BC known as the Drake.

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Alistair Croup
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-10-28 13:19:29 UTC
Luckly i have bc5. But i avn sure were going to be looking for some kind of other skills at 5 for it
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#7 - 2011-10-28 13:26:05 UTC
Alistair Croup wrote:
Luckly i have bc5. But i avn sure were going to be looking for some kind of other skills at 5 for it

Why? It is a tech 1 Battle Cruiser.

How many level 5 skills do you need for a Drake?

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Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-10-28 13:31:27 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:

They are NOT TECH 3, they are tier 3, as in you need BC level 3 and racial cruiser 3 to fly them. Just like you need Caldari Cruiser 3 and BC 2 to fly a tier 2 BC known as the Drake.



That does seem to be more reasonable and makes their statements about the new ships make more sense. Now, with that said, when will we see some new TECH3 ships? Strat cruisers are nice, but I'd love to see a Strat BS. I think its past time to expand the tech3 equipment.

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warsong nerds
Mars Industrial
#9 - 2011-10-28 14:29:45 UTC
i dont think you need BC to lv5 for the hull, cos its not a Tech 3, but a tier 3 version
you should get bc lv5 for the added bonus

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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2011-10-28 15:16:58 UTC
Ran'shad wrote:
Probably safe to assume Battlecruisers V, possibly Command Ships 3-4. I find it interesting that although they are reffering to them as T3, there is no mention of subsystems. In fact I would guess that they will not use sybsystems, as CCP has stated in a Dev Blog that they want them to be fairly common, and subsystems are both costly and training intensive.

In lieu of CCP providing the skillplan to pilot on eof these new lovely ships, we at least know that they can fit BS sized weapons, so I would suggets beefing up skills related to your racial weaponry. Although I would also welcome any additonal suggestions or a CCP statement on what sort of skills will be required.



Stupid people are referring to them as T3. They're TEIR three ships, T3 means tech 3.

Also, I haven't seen any reason why they would require command ships, or battlecruiser 5.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#11 - 2011-10-28 15:50:15 UTC
Alistair Croup wrote:
Has ccp said whdat skills we will need for these lovely ships? Would be great to be ready opening day to be ready to drop the nessary skill books and go! Tornado frw!


BC 3. Stock up on books I guess?
Arochi
Mischievous Intentions
#12 - 2011-10-28 15:53:54 UTC
Dorian Wylde wrote:
Ran'shad wrote:
Probably safe to assume Battlecruisers V, possibly Command Ships 3-4. I find it interesting that although they are reffering to them as T3, there is no mention of subsystems. In fact I would guess that they will not use sybsystems, as CCP has stated in a Dev Blog that they want them to be fairly common, and subsystems are both costly and training intensive.

In lieu of CCP providing the skillplan to pilot on eof these new lovely ships, we at least know that they can fit BS sized weapons, so I would suggets beefing up skills related to your racial weaponry. Although I would also welcome any additonal suggestions or a CCP statement on what sort of skills will be required.



Stupid people are referring to them as T3. They're TEIR three ships, T3 means tech 3.

Also, I haven't seen any reason why they would require command ships, or battlecruiser 5.



Pretty much this..

Going by the tier 1 and 2 BC you need Racial cruiser 3

It also seems that tier 1 Battlecruisers (Ferox, Cyclone ect.) need Battlecruiser 1, while their tier 2 counterparts need Battlecruiser 2, so it would be logical to assume that the new tier 3 ships would need battlecruiser 3.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2011-10-28 16:00:37 UTC
According to the data dump, it's [Racial] Cruiser III + Battlecruiser III, just as you'd expect from a tier 3 BC as others have mentioned. There is no reason to expect that part to change before they go live.
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-10-28 17:09:51 UTC
Ran'shad wrote:
I find it interesting that although they are reffering to them as T3


Why does like half the population of eve think this??!?!?! They are TIER 3 NOT TECH 3!!! GET IT RIGHT!!

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-28 17:14:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
tier 3 /= tech 3

also while we are on t3 statements

introducing tech 3 cruisers was, in my opinion a bad idea, and i hope they do not release any more tech 3 items.

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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-10-28 18:40:58 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
tier 3 /= tech 3

also while we are on t3 statements

introducing tech 3 cruisers was, in my opinion a bad idea, and i hope they do not release any more tech 3 items.


Agreed
Space Momma
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-10-28 22:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Space Momma
Skippermonkey wrote:
introducing tech 3 cruisers was, in my opinion a bad idea, and i hope they do not release any more tech 3 items.


u mad bro???

T3s is where eve is at.
just cos you cant afford/fly them doesnt mean they are bad.

WTB t3 frigs.
my buzzard wants an upgrade :)
None Smith
Somnambulist Inc.
#18 - 2011-10-29 03:44:36 UTC
In addition to required level of Battle Cruiser, it is implied that you would need to have some basic Battle-Ship appropriated gun / launcher skills to fully utilize the weapon system offerings. CCP is saying that they are going to be 'glass-cannons', emphasizing BS guns at the cost of defensive capability.
Alistair Croup
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-10-29 05:11:06 UTC
pretty sure they will redifine the use of BC's in fleet ops in Null-sec and PVP in general. I personaly look forward to seeing them in use!
Meltmind2
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-10-29 10:39:47 UTC
Battlecruiser V + T2 large lasers/hybrids/projectiles/torps (depending on what ship you want to fly).
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