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C5 Cataclysmic Double Carrier?

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Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#1 - 2013-08-14 16:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonnie Concrete
Hi All,

I've now settled into my C5, running all the sites with ease using 2 Domis.

With the RR bonus I've got, would I be able to run 2 carriers in the sites do you think? EFT thinks my tank will be around 10k dps per carrier...
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#2 - 2013-08-14 17:27:20 UTC
Easily. Just fit more resists than you would on a triage carrier and you should be good.

Your DPS might end up being uncomfortably low for the escalations though, even if you tank is sufficient.
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#3 - 2013-08-14 17:39:46 UTC
Let's see C5 Cataclysmic Variable with two carrier being multi-boxed in sites.

What would you say is your static? Time when you get online?Big smile

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

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Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#4 - 2013-08-14 17:40:28 UTC
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Easily. Just fit more resists than you would on a triage carrier and you should be good.

Your DPS might end up being uncomfortably low for the escalations though, even if you tank is sufficient.


OK cheers.
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#5 - 2013-08-14 17:41:36 UTC
Ronix Aideron wrote:
Let's see C5 Cataclysmic Variable with two carrier being multi-boxed in sites.

What would you say is your static? Time when you get online?Big smile


Yeah, this would only be done when theres only my static (c4) open, which will be critical and bubbled :)
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#6 - 2013-08-14 17:43:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
With just 2 carriers worth of DPS assuming your effectively putting fighter or drone damage on the guardians it will take you around 30 minutes minimum to kill 14 guardians and upto around an hour and a half if your using the wrong fighters and/or don't have the greatest skills.

If you've got a dedicated pilot per carrier you can probably keep fighters alive aslong as you have a sebo or 2 they will get toasted before you can get reps on them otherwise - you could just keep spamming sentry drones and fit some drone damage mods but probably take more like an hour that way.
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#7 - 2013-08-14 17:45:09 UTC
are the carrier spawned BSs harder to kill than the normal BSs in the sites?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#8 - 2013-08-14 17:47:19 UTC
Yes they have around twice the EHP give or take as most sleeper BS and do more damage.
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#9 - 2013-08-14 17:52:36 UTC
little fccckers!

OK I find once a spawn targets one of my domis, it doesnt start switching to drones at all. If this is the case with the cap esc BSs, then would it be fair to presume using Fighters for the added DPS would be feasible?
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#10 - 2013-08-14 17:53:38 UTC
Rroff wrote:
With just 2 carriers worth of DPS assuming your effectively putting fighter or drone damage on the guardians it will take you around 30 minutes minimum to kill 14 guardians and upto around an hour and a half if your using the wrong fighters and/or don't have the greatest skills.

If you've got a dedicated pilot per carrier you can probably keep fighters alive aslong as you have a sebo or 2 they will get toasted before you can get reps on them otherwise - you could just keep spamming sentry drones and fit some drone damage mods but probably take more like an hour that way.


OK cheers.

Not overly worried about ISK per hour atm, it's only me and my alt so I don't need to be too greedy
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-14 17:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: WInter Borne
Jonnie Concrete wrote:
are the carrier spawned BSs harder to kill than the normal BSs in the sites?

If I recall correctly, they have ~80% omni resists, several times the effective hitpoints of regular sleeper battleship, neut heavily, web, and scram. The volley from their torpedos is decidedly on the mean side as well.

I would definitely not recommend using only carriers to kill those escalation waves. You need more dps, either dedicated dps battleships or a dread with web support.
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#12 - 2013-08-14 17:56:24 UTC
WInter Borne wrote:
Jonnie Concrete wrote:
are the carrier spawned BSs harder to kill than the normal BSs in the sites?

If I recall correctly, they have ~80% omni resists, several times the effective hitpoints of regular sleeper battleship, neut heavily, web, and scram. The volley from their torpedos is decidedly on the mean side as well.

I would definitely not recommend using only carriers to kill those escalation waves. You need more dps, either dedicated dps battleships or a dread with web support.


OK. I think I read in a previous post that Archon / Abaddon could work ?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#13 - 2013-08-14 18:05:41 UTC
I wouldn't personally do it with a single carrier without atleast 4 dps fit baddons and preferably 5 tbh as your local tank in a CV is pretty badly gimped - if your not killing the guardians fairly quickly the carrier is going to come under a lot of pressure.
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#14 - 2013-08-14 18:06:40 UTC
OK I'll have a play around cheers.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-08-14 21:23:42 UTC
seems like an excellent plan, go for it.

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XHeli
CreoDron Solutions
#16 - 2013-08-14 22:24:34 UTC
1 carrier and 2 navy geddons or similar minimum. If all you have are 2 characters and living solo in a c5... bad move my friend. Good luck.
Ulster Assasin
#17 - 2013-08-14 22:34:54 UTC
Nice one Jonnie,

2 carriers would be a nightmare, but 2 carriers and 2 dreads with a few loki would be good Big smile


Jonnie Concrete wrote:
Hi All,

I've now settled into my C5, running all the sites with ease using 2 Domis.

With the RR bonus I've got, would I be able to run 2 carriers in the sites do you think? EFT thinks my tank will be around 10k dps per carrier...

John Wolfsson
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-08-14 22:49:28 UTC  |  Edited by: John Wolfsson
2 carriers vs. 14 Guardians plus normal spawn , hmmm , my bets are on sleepers ...
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#19 - 2013-08-15 01:49:51 UTC
Yeahhh you're going to die if you warp those carriers in.

A whole escalation wave puts out a lot of damage.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-08-15 02:14:04 UTC
You actually won't die. well, shouldnt if youre fits are ok.
what will die are all your drones, LONG before the sleepers do.
at which point youll have to log off for 3 days and wait for the site to despawn.

i saw a group of 4 carriers doing it a few years back. they got through i think 3 guardians before they ran out of fighters and all promptly logged off.
was one of the funniest things ive seen in WHs.

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