Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why must the pilot leave the system? He can stay there as long as he wants managing his cloak capacitor use.
Yes, he does have to stay active. Even high sec miners have to stay active while playing if they want to accomplish something relevant.

His leaving the system is not even relevant, in the end.

Knowing he is active, is what KILLS any chance that a PvE player will undock, because according to the logic, they only undocked because they were willing to risk exposure due to expectations the threat was not active.
Bye bye risk. Noone undocks without accepting this active hostile first.

If they undock, despite knowing the hostile is active, then they do so prepared to face the hostile. They are likely to need to fit for such an encounter, or expect a kill mail as a generous gift to the hunter.

If they are willing to undock, knowing he is active, why are we even worried that he might not be active? The PvE pilot must be prepared to either wait or not.

The logic fails in both directions, when balance is needed.

You're saying the risk is gone and that the docked pilot can take the risk in the same situation.
Are we talking about two different risks?

That's a sad confirmation...

Good god...and this thread is like a "Like Generator"...I've never seen so many notifications from one thread.

Unfortunelly a lot of people think the forums are about that.

No, if you have no cap a cloak cannot be activated, and there are plenty of ways your cap can die without you being neuted... Now perhaps you can answer some of the other questions that others have asked you as they attempt to figure out exactly what your problem with AFK pilots is, or with cloaked ships, or exactly how to reconcile your many contradictory points.

Very well, I will clarify this.

First Possibility: The PvE pilot refuses to undock, since they now know for certain that a hostile MUST be active. As this kills the risk to the PvE pilot completely, they have the rewards for PvE dropped accordingly.

Second Possibility: The PvE pilot refuses to be intimidated, and goes out knowing the hostile is active. They fit a ship for a hostile encounter, and make it able to still glean enough income from PvE to make it worth bothering.
Note: this pilot in this description NEVER cared whether a hostile was cloaked, AFK, or furiously rubbing one off to images of dancing ponies. They are also not being represented by your idea, as a result. They will be negatively impacted in the event rewards are further reduced.

The hostile, either way: With the effort needed to hunt PvE targets raised, a corresponding number of pilots will change interests to things more reasonable to the effort they consider fun. They simply won't hunt like this, as the effort pushed it past being fun for them.

I'm doing that. I don't remember anyone pointing a contradiction on what I said. I'm trying to answer all reasonable questions.
You're talking about needing cap to activate the cloak but doesn't make a point on how is this relevant to the discussion.

In this case removing afk cloaking is not removing risk, it's ADDING even more risk to the PvE pilot. There is no chance the cloaked pilot in space to NOT represent a threat because he can't be afk. How is that removing risk?