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(Proposal) Navy Tier 3 BS and Battlecruisers
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Voddick
AFK
#1 - 2011-10-28 01:29:39 UTC
Proposal

We all know and love our navy Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battleships. But what about some Tier 3 battleship and battlecruiser love? This would add diversity to the ship lineup with minimal work as these hulls would require a “minor” re-texturing for the navy paint job.

Implementation

Let these new Navy ships be attainable through the faction warfare LP store to encourage more low-sec involvement. Let’s further incentivize this area of space to become more profitable, attracting more residents.
bloodlust priest
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-10-28 01:45:11 UTC
enough faction and ****** low sp bullshit already,

khanid abaddons pls
Vitoc Slave
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-12-22 05:57:02 UTC
These were already seen on SiSi....maybe Summer Expansion?
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#4 - 2011-12-22 08:18:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolodymyr
Yeah!

And while we are at it let's see some faction tier 1 and 2 battle cruisers! Fed navy myrmidon!

bloodlust priest wrote:
enough faction and ****** low sp bullshit already,

khanid abaddons pls

Actually I'd like to see more low SP people with faction gear, just lazily floating around in lowsec doing whatever.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#5 - 2011-12-22 13:45:09 UTC
Tech 3 frigates and battleships first plx :)
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#6 - 2011-12-22 14:13:24 UTC
i want an abaddon with brickwall texture.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-22 18:02:16 UTC
Brickwall? LOL


But seriously...some faction BC's would be nice...theres faction frigs...cruisers....bs's...but no BC's or even destroyers...would be kinda cool to be honest.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#8 - 2011-12-22 21:12:53 UTC
Hmm, might be nice.

Personally, I just want the Blood Raiders to actually use their ships instead of just Amarr ones.
CaleAdaire
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#9 - 2011-12-22 21:17:20 UTC
Ya Huei wrote:
Tech 3 frigates and battleships first plx :)


^^^^^
This please!!

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King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#10 - 2011-12-24 22:34:38 UTC
Well we do have CCP focusing on flying in space rather than turning eve into a barbie dress up game, so adding ships is pretty reasonable at this point. I'd like to see the faction lineup for navies and later pirate factions fill up. We still need navy destroyers, BC's and yes, even capitals. Some should be FW only while others are available at all faction appropriate LP stores. Generally speaking I think the standard navy issue buffs of an extra slot or two, +50% HP and sensor strength and a little extra fitting resources would be appropriate. But some may need major changes like the navy scorpion received. One thing is for sure, the imperial navy coercer will be needing a second midslot.Lol

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CaleAdaire
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#11 - 2011-12-24 22:50:04 UTC
Voddick wrote:
Proposal

We all know and love our navy Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battleships. But what about some Tier 3 battleship and battlecruiser love? This would add diversity to the ship lineup with minimal work as these hulls would require a “minor” re-texturing for the navy paint job.

Implementation

Let these new Navy ships be attainable through the faction warfare LP store to encourage more low-sec involvement. Let’s further incentivize this area of space to become more profitable, attracting more residents.

You do know we just got Tier 3 BC's right..? There was a whole expansion based around them...

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#12 - 2011-12-26 11:29:21 UTC
Navy Baddon O_O ME WANT!!
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-12-26 14:15:17 UTC
Personally I feel that any new "class" of ship released should immediately be released with its faction variants. I would love a Navy Oracle. On the other hand I can see the reason for not doing so in that they are trying to balance the game right now...introducing a new Tier of Battlecruiser was already enough of a risk to the balance of PvP. CCP needs to wait and see what happens with the new BC's and make fine tuned adjustments where needed before introducing more ships to throw things off balance again.

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Seventh Seraph
AFK Empire
#14 - 2012-01-13 22:08:59 UTC
confirming that a Navy Baddon would be epic....+1

Are you saying that the faction Navy doesn't use / have tier 3 ships? come on, this makes sense and you know it.

They should introduce Navy tier 1 & 2 BC before the tier 3 though... as the balancing issue still needs to be addressed.
Arch Stanton's Neighbour
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
#15 - 2012-01-13 22:30:06 UTC
You guys mean like the Nightmare and Machariel and Bhaalgorn and Vindicator?

Those ships already fill those roles.

A T2, tier 3 battleship not limited to a single role like the existing ones, OTOH...
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#16 - 2012-01-14 00:42:33 UTC
There are enough faction battleships. We need more tech II battleships to fill niches.

Basically battleship versions of most tech II cruisers.

More marauders would be nice too:

Khanid torp abbadon
Ishikone hybrid Rokh
Roden Drone Hyperion
Core Complexions arty maelstrom
Goose99
#17 - 2012-01-15 04:45:11 UTC
FW LP shop doesn't encourage lowsec involvement, it encourages flying of SBs and the art of risk aversion.Lol
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#18 - 2012-01-15 07:55:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Hirana Yoshida
Balance existing hulls first, kthxbye.

To elaborate:
There is no room in the line-ups for a Navy BC as they would get +50%EHP, slots, damage, drones etc. They would effectively be in between the tier1 and 2 BS in power, only difference being weapons range with all other characteristics much better. One could add a BC support craft of some sort, but would be kind of boring and probably overlap with T2 cruisers something fierce.

Navy tier3 BS has room, but what is the point? All it would accomplish is introduce a high-end ship for the ISK rich to make up for their flaccid epeens .. it wouldn't add anything of real value other than "another ship" no matter how you style it.
Could see them introduced as mini-Dreads which are asked for elsewhere, give them a miniaturized siege module (1/3rd all numbers or so) and then make the same module available for fitting on T2 BS sometime later .. private sector using military tech after the fact.
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#19 - 2012-01-15 10:42:54 UTC
Kolya Medz wrote:
There are enough faction battleships. We need more tech II battleships to fill niches.

Basically battleship versions of most tech II cruisers.

More marauders would be nice too:

Khanid torp abbadon
Ishikone hybrid Rokh
Roden Drone Hyperion
Core Complexions arty maelstrom



With capital guns stupidity as the t3 battlecruisers with large guns ??? :DDD
Jon Marburg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-01-23 08:55:27 UTC
Navy ships are supposed to be somewhere between T1 and T2, so BCs are going to be around 70-90k ehp and 600-800 dps thats assuming they go with a straight up dps role, which I hope they don't do. I'd be alright with more ships, but they need to balance what they have already before they add more to their plate. Be nice to see a gallente ship in the top 10 ships used Roll.
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