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Cost Price Index (CPI) NPC bounty changes required

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Xain deSleena
420 Enterprises.
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-08-10 12:27:24 UTC
I have been playing EVE for 5 years.
I have never seen a change in price for the bounties on NPC rats in Asteroid Belts.
I am not 100% sure if they have been stagnant on Anomolies, Dead Space and Missions.
I am getting the same price I was paid 5 years ago for killing the same NPC rats
PLEX prices are at an all time high 500m + yet bounties are the same price?
When will bounties go up, in 10 years time, 20 years time?
If there is no intention for the bounties to go up in value, why not?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-10 17:06:56 UTC
Xain deSleena wrote:
I have been playing EVE for 5 years.
I have never seen a change in price for the bounties on NPC rats in Asteroid Belts.
I am not 100% sure if they have been stagnant on Anomolies, Dead Space and Missions.
I am getting the same price I was paid 5 years ago for killing the same NPC rats
PLEX prices are at an all time high 500m + yet bounties are the same price?
When will bounties go up, in 10 years time, 20 years time?
If there is no intention for the bounties to go up in value, why not?


Why? It's not hard to rat up isk.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2013-08-10 18:08:43 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Xain deSleena wrote:
I have been playing EVE for 5 years.
I have never seen a change in price for the bounties on NPC rats in Asteroid Belts.
I am not 100% sure if they have been stagnant on Anomolies, Dead Space and Missions.
I am getting the same price I was paid 5 years ago for killing the same NPC rats
PLEX prices are at an all time high 500m + yet bounties are the same price?
When will bounties go up, in 10 years time, 20 years time?
If there is no intention for the bounties to go up in value, why not?


Why? It's not hard to rat up isk.

Pretty much this. It's stupid easy to make ISK in EVE (which is why PLEX is around 500mil from 250mil 2-3 years ago). And we don't need to increase an "ISK Faucet" (see: a mechanic that introduces more ISK into the economy) as we already have too many.

How did you Veterans start?
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#4 - 2013-08-12 20:15:47 UTC
Xain deSleena wrote:
I have been playing EVE for 5 years.
I have never seen a change in price for the bounties on NPC rats in Asteroid Belts.
I am not 100% sure if they have been stagnant on Anomolies, Dead Space and Missions.
I am getting the same price I was paid 5 years ago for killing the same NPC rats
PLEX prices are at an all time high 500m + yet bounties are the same price?
When will bounties go up, in 10 years time, 20 years time?
If there is no intention for the bounties to go up in value, why not?



The thing is if bounties go up then everyones income goes up. This means that everyones buying power / isk goes down which means eventually it levels out that 1 hour of ratting buys you exactly what it did before.

This also works for people asking:

make my mining lasers mine more
make sites give more loot
Give us all free isk!

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#5 - 2013-08-12 22:09:13 UTC

I'm pretty sure bounties were modified in Dominion, when Pirate Infrastructure upgrades enabled infinitely respawning anomalies. I thought they have been modified since then too...

On one level, the "rewards" for isk making in nullsec should be balanced with the risk of a "standard ship" fielded there. The last two years have seen a significant increase in the build costs of ships, and so it is appropriate to increase the rewards in nullsec to maintain the "risk vs reward" paradigm.

At the same time, more isk for bounties doesn't truly solve the issue. We need more things like revamped ores (which we just got) and the like which keeps nullsec isk earning potential high.

More bounties on NPC's in nullsec == alright.... but I'd like more scramming frigs and possibly cruisers & BS's too.
Xain deSleena
420 Enterprises.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-08-15 07:19:42 UTC
Well I did like mining once as a noob. Mining is a great corporation effort where you can mine billions worth. It is really mind numbing work though. How anyone could say that miners cannot go AFK is ludicrous albeit for a short time and not to use any bots I mean. I would love to see huge alliances mining week after week in null sec having bodyguards to protect their flimsy fleets.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-08-15 12:13:25 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

I'm pretty sure bounties were modified in Dominion, when Pirate Infrastructure upgrades enabled infinitely respawning anomalies. I thought they have been modified since then too...


Nope, bounties stayed the same. However anomaly rats are deadspace rats (like rats in missions and plexes), not belt rats which have a higher bounty.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#8 - 2013-08-15 12:15:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Xain deSleena wrote:
I have been playing EVE for 5 years.
I have never seen a change in price for the bounties on NPC rats in Asteroid Belts.
I am not 100% sure if they have been stagnant on Anomolies, Dead Space and Missions.
I am getting the same price I was paid 5 years ago for killing the same NPC rats
PLEX prices are at an all time high 500m + yet bounties are the same price?
When will bounties go up, in 10 years time, 20 years time?
If there is no intention for the bounties to go up in value, why not?


What do you think will happen to PLEX prices if there is suddenly more ISK being pumped into the game?

Hint: PLEX are priced at x hours of player effort, because there's a finite source of them.

EDIT: Wait, you are aware that players set PLEX prices, right?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016