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10 year Vet Stations

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Functionary
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#241 - 2014-04-25 00:22:01 UTC
Dont blame the falcon blame 4-4 jita and corporate spaiz (sp)
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#242 - 2014-04-25 00:56:08 UTC
MutnantRebel wrote:
I started playing in 2008, and have off and on since. Not 10 years yet, but enough time to not cry about "Entitlements".

CCP doing such as make 10 year stations is an ode to the players that make this game. They do it in appreciation... It's not a gift any longer if it's demanded, cried over, or becomes cause for dissent. It then becomes an obligation to ungrateful people. Don't be ungrateful, it's bad form.


It wasn't brought about because bitter vets demanded it. CCP promised and confimed they were doing it several times, even to the point of dangling it in front of us with a claim it was part of the last expansion but didn't make it and the promise of having it before fanfest.

So we were promised a pony even though we never asked for one and then told that they decided instead to take the pony behind the barn and shoot it.

So a couple of things we have to ask. Was ANY of it true. Was it really far along and work being done on it till recently? If it was that close why not just deliver it? Is Eve really so crusty that something as seemingly simple as copying a current asset and putting on the grid is a huge deal? I did read it turned out to be impossible to work out the restricted access based on account age. I sort of believe that, but I run software teams for a living and I would have investigated and figured out basic things like that before I have any real resources applied to delivering it.

Bottom line this is either a real indicator that the development process is a mess at CCP or we aren't being told the real story.

Although I would have probably visited the Jita Bitter station once or twice I'm not losing any sleep over not getting, but I just get tired of seeing yet another faceplant in CCP/player communications. When is the last time we got anything approaching what we've been told to expect or promised to see?
Flamespar
WarRavens
#243 - 2014-04-25 01:10:00 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
MutnantRebel wrote:
I started playing in 2008, and have off and on since. Not 10 years yet, but enough time to not cry about "Entitlements".

CCP doing such as make 10 year stations is an ode to the players that make this game. They do it in appreciation... It's not a gift any longer if it's demanded, cried over, or becomes cause for dissent. It then becomes an obligation to ungrateful people. Don't be ungrateful, it's bad form.


It wasn't brought about because bitter vets demanded it. CCP promised and confimed they were doing it several times, even to the point of dangling it in front of us with a claim it was part of the last expansion but didn't make it and the promise of having it before fanfest.

So we were promised a pony even though we never asked for one and then told that they decided instead to take the pony behind the barn and shoot it.

So a couple of things we have to ask. Was ANY of it true. Was it really far along and work being done on it till recently? If it was that close why not just deliver it? Is Eve really so crusty that something as seemingly simple as copying a current asset and putting on the grid is a huge deal? I did read it turned out to be impossible to work out the restricted access based on account age. I sort of believe that, but I run software teams for a living and I would have investigated and figured out basic things like that before I have any real resources applied to delivering it.

Bottom line this is either a real indicator that the development process is a mess at CCP or we aren't being told the real story.

Although I would have probably visited the Jita Bitter station once or twice I'm not losing any sleep over not getting, but I just get tired of seeing yet another faceplant in CCP/player communications. When is the last time we got anything approaching what we've been told to expect or promised to see?


This.
Functionary
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#244 - 2014-04-25 02:39:55 UTC
I have one of my "new eden alts" try and start a "kickstarter" fund in Rens local

Its the only way to get the disco and ponies :(
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#245 - 2014-04-25 10:45:12 UTC
Ah well.....

There is an interesting aspect of fanfest that could be best entitled as "things you'll never, ever, ever see in game. Ever."

I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg

CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#246 - 2014-04-25 11:25:54 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:


I can provide a picture of my cats cuddling, to hopefully make you feel a little better.

We have to take the rough with the smooth though, and I'll be interested to hear suggestions at Fanfest!

Smile



+1 because of the kitties.

I for one would not complain if they where the 10 year birthday present Lol
Wyrm Alnaden
W.A.S.P
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#247 - 2014-04-25 15:17:26 UTC
In order to make all players feel apreciated and add an extra reason to stay in game you can do lots of rewards depending on how much time they play and the more the better the rewards. For example

1 Year of Service:
3 Years of Service:
5 Years of Service:
8 Years of Service:
10 Years of Service:

The rewards may be in games items, access to more areas in forums, Special discounts to older vets, PLEXes (3 beers and 4th is free) , special gifts in other or future CCP games and more.

Jarvin Spoo
Clandestine Management Group
#248 - 2014-04-25 15:36:18 UTC
HostageTaker wrote:
Good good, I can't wait to become more bitter as I sit inside the bitter station!

X


Jesus...just stop playing then.

p.s. Can I have your stuff?
Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
#249 - 2014-04-25 15:42:10 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
... We'd like to hear you guys out, gather feedback, and see what the Community wants as a 10 year celebration of EVE in game. ...

new player -- 10-year vet

It should be a similar principle. Newer players need an area (high sec) to learn and practice all the skills needed for their choice of play. Dec-vets have everything they could possibly need but ... not an area.

Stations for each ... NO. But one station they can all warp to, yes. This station would have only common hangers. When WIS comes the dec-vets can hang out in their exclusive bar, jaw about the good'ol days, and brag about how they screwed everyone who came after them.

"Block" pigs. Refuse to fly with them.

Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#250 - 2014-04-25 17:58:00 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Is it really necessary that CCP Falcon takes the beating for this?

It would display much more character,
if the person who promised this station
came here and took the beating himself.


Like he deserves.

If only he still worked for CCP.
Jai Centarium
Anqara Expeditions
#251 - 2014-04-25 18:15:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jai Centarium
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Is it really necessary that CCP Falcon takes the beating for this?

It would display much more character,
if the person who promised this station
came here and took the beating himself.


Like he deserves.

If only he still worked for CCP.


That can be said about way too many devs who made way too many promises, unfortunately.

EDIT: PLONK

Certified purveyor of the High Life.

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#252 - 2014-04-25 18:29:14 UTC
my first account was in 2005, does it count if my current main only has 3 & 1/2 years?
JackknifedII
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#253 - 2014-04-25 18:40:15 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
10 year vet Station will have less than 10 people docked in it at any one time, and nobody is going to notice or care that they're tucked away in some odd corner of the universe.

I can't imagine there are many players who have stayed subbed without interruption for 10 years flat, and of those that have - how many are going to want to sit in that station to do effectively nothing special other than sitting in that particular station?

Unless of course it has special attributes or LP store or something of the sort. vOv



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Lord Ra
Sicarius.
#254 - 2014-04-25 20:35:12 UTC
I approve of this thread!! :O) id love a present for my loyalty, i havent been subbed for the whole 10 years there have been breaks but with real life going from a skinny teen to a hulking monster with bewbs ive loved all 10 years ive been playing!


All i wanna ask is dont make it based on how we have been active and stuff, I think a good idea as someone mentioned would be to just reward 10 year toons that have not left their original account? wont be ideal for everyone though i dont know :) ive spent my lfie growing up with eve and i wish i coulda played every hour i was awake until bed time but work, education, real life stuff you know im sure you all understand how hard it is to keep a sub going for 10 years , dont make it too shiney or expensive just make somthing uniquefor us and id be ever so happy, somthing i can show off, an imperial navy apoc perhaps? ;o you could scrub it down so it aint too shiney and all that!!!.


But yes some great ideas keep them coming!



Thanks
Ra Lol
Wolfman
Best Kept Dunked
#255 - 2014-04-26 18:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolfman
Over 10 years and counting here. Never unsubbed or taken a break from eve Shocked....It is sad to have seen many of my old vet friends that have left eve. Sad

Date of Birth in EVE 2003.05.09 03:09:00
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#256 - 2014-04-26 18:48:38 UTC
Would 10 year veterans be getting an actual material benefit?

Or would it just be a place for you guys to hang out, like a private club?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#257 - 2014-04-27 19:39:51 UTC
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#258 - 2014-04-27 19:42:28 UTC
Im no where near being alive that long, even on my oldest alt

But I want it, it would be cute

It could have a loyalty store that sold mugs and tshirts and a visitors center for us young uns

And ice cream

And cake

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Famine Aligher'ri
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#259 - 2014-04-28 05:45:02 UTC
Umm, what about us who have been playing EVE for 10 years but are pirates and cannot enter high-sec? Sad

Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate

Former The Pirate Syndicate Member

Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member

Former Burn Eden member

Former BioMass Cartel member

Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#260 - 2014-04-28 11:38:32 UTC
Famine Aligher'ri wrote:
Umm, what about us who have been playing EVE for 10 years but are pirates and cannot enter high-sec? Sad


What? Do you get booted out of the game if you enter HighSec? Just take a pod or shuttle or something.

Or collect some of those new tags to upgrade your sec-status a bit.