Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I dunno what you are talking about, I bank running data and relic sites.

.....oh yeah, I have like 4-5 null sec regions to roam through looking for sites.

Well, all of the ones I've found so far. It's the rare miner who won't rage at me. The vehemence unleashed at the destruction of their pixels is such that you'd think I'd absconded with their children.



At what point did anyone but you start talking about that crap, though?

Harry asked why we attack miners. My answer is, because it's more amusing, since they pitch bigger fits than anyone else. I believe they do this because they are much more prone to having an entitlement mindset.

It's quite common in society these days for people to point their finger at others while exhibiting an inability to look in a mirror.

The sense of entitlement is across the board.

But I must ask, is not the raging from ganked miners on par with the raging against Harry's nullsec endeavors? I see the same kind of mentality in either kind of thread. Whether it's Harry saying that nullsec in part should be invaded, or somebody who was running cargo AFK in Eudema and got smacked, the replies look the same.

The people claiming to be against self entitlement are showing the same sense of entitlement, as if there's some obligation to destroy entitlement, but no question as to who or what made them feel entitled to be the ones to carry out such a mission.

But in the end, while it is said that Harry's efforts mean nothing as far as making any difference in nullsec, the same can be said about ganking miners.

They have not stopped mining you see.


Isn't going to nullsec and attacking the bears out there not amusing? Seeing goons deploy trolls to the forums is not amusing? Seeing them send out bait ships and start camping the road to VFK more is not amusing? Joepopo failing to catch Harry's double-stabbed cat with an instacane (after being told in the forums by another goon that nobody puts stabs in a dessie) and then losing the instacane is not amusing?

When we bombed the Mittangrad undock, I was giggling like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory. I do the same in COD when I sneak up on people and smack them in the head with a rifle butt. Is that not amusing?



Why is only your amusement the only legitimate kind? Where did you get that sense of entitlement?

Ah you want to pyschobabble now. This is a standard Conan The Internet Contrarian method, as usual.

Harry has enough people NOT in the forums supplying him with ships. That matters more.

He's doing exactly what every leet pvper troll in the forums says what everybody should do. All he got for that was trolled.

I don't block people, but I will choose not to waste more time on you. Everything I say you will "wordsmith". You remind me of my ex who would pick one word out of one sentence and then spawn an entirely new argument about it. I won't say the word that applies, since you will get smug and post "reported" using ISD as your personal weapon.

No it's not psychobabble.

He addressed your words. You seem to fail to understand that he did that.
You also seem to lack the ability to reflect your own words.

You should try addressing what he said, instead of just dismissing it like a moron
who is unable to realize that his opposite is trying to have an *actual* conversation.

You're the timewaster here. He's not a "wordsmith", he is intelligent enough to understand words
and their meanings, while you seem to just use them, without actually understanding them.

The issue lies with you, not him. If you really read and understood his word,
instead of just reading and projecting,
you would be able to have a conversation about it ... but you can't. *can't*. Not "not want".


Try it, you might learn something.

Uhm they lied because they knew you are naive ....



Honesty brings you further in life you say?This is eve , in eve honesty brings you 3 steps back ... i should know as i am allways honest in eve and it never helped me out in any way.

You made the statement that all miners have a sense of entitlement.

As I pointed out many different people mine, myself encluded to support my PVP. I also pointed out that you assumption was not true or accurate.

That is where diversity came in. I due many things to fund my play style.

Hope this helps you understand better. Have a nice day.

There need be no such mechanic Harry. Part of the point of Eve is the trust game.

A good litmus test for whether a mechanics change in Eve makes sense is the number and complexity of exceptions to the mechanic you'd need to introduce for the game to still work. The requirements for special cases in your requested feature make it unworkable:

Make it so the fleet members can't target each other.

>> what about Logistics?

Except logistics.

>> What if I have logi drones but my ship has weapon systems?

Only the logi drones work not the guns or missiles or other drones or neuts or nos or...

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You have to except the world to make the feature work, and that's a key indicator of bad design.

Also, didn't you make that thread on the fast food generation? Isn't it akin to a fast food version of Eve to erode the trust meta-game? You should enjoy the full complexity of the game and employ your own interpersonal skills to discern the intent of your fellow players.

I think you people are all not playing the game, nullsec is empty and there are reasons for that, ccp has to do everything to make people go there in groups and fight... too much **** is holding this up

I already mentioned that the logi stuff could be excluded, thats not hard to program

too much waiting and nothing happening, and if something happens its over soon because some douches shoot others in fleet, **** that

you need to encourage new players to fleetup with others, not support the old players that they can get an easy kill just because a new player wants to get into the game!

you think a programmer can not exclude the autocannon and missiles? god you people here...