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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#21 - 2013-08-09 16:48:12 UTC
Lunarstorm95 wrote:


Im being told by corpies that big ships cant handle escalations (like staging points and fortress') because of sig radius?

Also im surprised u put vindi on that list? If were talking about same sites i wouldnt think a vindi would even be slightly viable


I've used a Vindi paired with a remote repping Domi in a Fleet Staging point 3 (9/10), the vindi went in 1st to tank the torp, the domi has local tank to tank the rest of the spawns. Some ships need back up to do DED 9s and 10s, but a rattlesnake isn't one of them.

The people who think a battleship can't tank a citadel torp throwing DED plex are simply wrong, I know because I've done it. Hell, it's easier now due to the fact that all the torps aren't just EM now. Smaller sig does rock (which is why I've used Tengus and lokis in the past), but even before the citadel torp change, a rattlesnake could tank 300k+ EM damage. Now for Guristas space you just tank Kin/therm and be done with it.

The ONLY time i had a problem in Guristas space was when I killed the station 1st in a MAZE with the snake , that got rid of the citadel torp but I need up having to kill the scrams and warp out because I had full room aggro and my snake tank was breaking slowly. Serp/10/10 is even easier than the maze for a solo rattlesnake, even with the structure grind at the end.

Hell,I use RR rattlesnakes (2 of them) for Blood Raider Naval Shipyard, THE most bad assed DED in the game.
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#22 - 2013-08-09 18:20:24 UTC
Would be nice is escalations stayed within a region. Got to love starting one in Providence and having it end in Delve...
NullSec where regions tend to be boarders for Empires isn't great for escalations.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Lunarstorm95
Godless Horizon.
OnlyFleets.
#23 - 2013-08-09 18:33:45 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lunarstorm95 wrote:


Im being told by corpies that big ships cant handle escalations (like staging points and fortress') because of sig radius?

Also im surprised u put vindi on that list? If were talking about same sites i wouldnt think a vindi would even be slightly viable


I've used a Vindi paired with a remote repping Domi in a Fleet Staging point 3 (9/10), the vindi went in 1st to tank the torp, the domi has local tank to tank the rest of the spawns. Some ships need back up to do DED 9s and 10s, but a rattlesnake isn't one of them.

The people who think a battleship can't tank a citadel torp throwing DED plex are simply wrong, I know because I've done it. Hell, it's easier now due to the fact that all the torps aren't just EM now. Smaller sig does rock (which is why I've used Tengus and lokis in the past), but even before the citadel torp change, a rattlesnake could tank 300k+ EM damage. Now for Guristas space you just tank Kin/therm and be done with it.

The ONLY time i had a problem in Guristas space was when I killed the station 1st in a MAZE with the snake , that got rid of the citadel torp but I need up having to kill the scrams and warp out because I had full room aggro and my snake tank was breaking slowly. Serp/10/10 is even easier than the maze for a solo rattlesnake, even with the structure grind at the end.

Hell,I use RR rattlesnakes (2 of them) for Blood Raider Naval Shipyard, THE most bad assed DED in the game.



hmm ill try a Rattle then and see how that works

Thanks for reply

Passive or active fit? and did u use sentry or heavys?

“You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.” ― Robert A. Heinlein "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." ― Confucius 
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#24 - 2013-08-09 19:03:21 UTC
Lunarstorm95 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lunarstorm95 wrote:


Im being told by corpies that big ships cant handle escalations (like staging points and fortress') because of sig radius?

Also im surprised u put vindi on that list? If were talking about same sites i wouldnt think a vindi would even be slightly viable


I've used a Vindi paired with a remote repping Domi in a Fleet Staging point 3 (9/10), the vindi went in 1st to tank the torp, the domi has local tank to tank the rest of the spawns. Some ships need back up to do DED 9s and 10s, but a rattlesnake isn't one of them.

The people who think a battleship can't tank a citadel torp throwing DED plex are simply wrong, I know because I've done it. Hell, it's easier now due to the fact that all the torps aren't just EM now. Smaller sig does rock (which is why I've used Tengus and lokis in the past), but even before the citadel torp change, a rattlesnake could tank 300k+ EM damage. Now for Guristas space you just tank Kin/therm and be done with it.

The ONLY time i had a problem in Guristas space was when I killed the station 1st in a MAZE with the snake , that got rid of the citadel torp but I need up having to kill the scrams and warp out because I had full room aggro and my snake tank was breaking slowly. Serp/10/10 is even easier than the maze for a solo rattlesnake, even with the structure grind at the end.

Hell,I use RR rattlesnakes (2 of them) for Blood Raider Naval Shipyard, THE most bad assed DED in the game.



hmm ill try a Rattle then and see how that works

Thanks for reply

Passive or active fit? and did u use sentry or heavys?


Passive and don't skimp on the buffer and sentries.

And Smart Bombs. For the life of me i dunno why more people who run DEDs don't use them, Citadel torps don't have massive ehp and pop easy.

[Rattlesnake, The MAZE]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Pith B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Pith C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Pith C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pith C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb

Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II


Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Hobgoblin II x30

* lots of light drones because they will die
*stagger the smart bombs off and on to be cap stable
*drone damage mod optional (use to be ballistic control before the DDAs came out.
*move away from beacon before lighting smart bombs else they won't come on. Smart bombs don't work in the 1st 4 rooms unless you move away form the gates
*Smartbombs not only kill citadel torps, but the missiles from the Guristas Battleships, aiding your tank greatly
*Bigger smartbombs can be used but mgiht make you cap out, but bigger smartbombs also kill that swarm of frigs on you at the begining of the 5th room
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#25 - 2013-08-09 20:34:22 UTC
Lunarstorm95 wrote:

But solo and all pve the tengu is still a "win all")


No one cares if ship A is better than ships B, C, and D for making jew gold.

Tengu is definitely not king for solo. Thats autistic as hell.
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#26 - 2013-08-09 20:34:54 UTC
Re: you still don't know what you're talking about
Lunarstorm95
Godless Horizon.
OnlyFleets.
#27 - 2013-08-10 06:15:17 UTC
XXSketchxx wrote:
Re: you still don't know what you're talking about


Shhh silly test

PS Hows the evac to delve treating you?

“You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.” ― Robert A. Heinlein "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." ― Confucius 
Lunarstorm95
Godless Horizon.
OnlyFleets.
#28 - 2013-08-10 06:16:47 UTC
Lunarstorm95 wrote:
XXSketchxx wrote:
Re: you still don't know what you're talking about


Shhh silly test

PS Hows the evac to delve treating you?



O wait your evacing from delve too

“You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.” ― Robert A. Heinlein "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." ― Confucius 
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