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we need mini nukes...

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Joepopo
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#141 - 2013-08-11 10:47:18 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Joepopo wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
one thing to make clear, because some are complaining I'm requesting superweapons because my invasion did not happen, it sounds like if that would be my fault, however its the fault of the people, I'm already doing what I can

it's the faul of each individual, that the invasion is not happening, because they are just not ready to move their ass and fight... like I said, everybody would need to go there on his own, I'm not your daddy holding hands bringing you out there

therefore if people are not ready to fight the goons because they are all scared to death, this one man show of mine needs more weapons to do it alone, its that simple


The general consensus is that giving the ability for one man to ruin the game of, say, 100 man is OP.

Why is it OP you will say? because a group of 1000 goons can be considered as 1000 times one man and could ruin the day of 100 000 players.

How many goons does it take to upset highsec?


Goons are OP as per general consensus.
Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2013-08-11 15:04:38 UTC
It's getting pathetic.

Unable to bring down the evil empire with his legion of imaginary friends, Harry now turns to imaginary weapons of mass destruction to support his giant ego.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#143 - 2013-08-11 15:42:33 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
one thing to make clear, because some are complaining I'm requesting superweapons because my invasion did not happen, it sounds like if that would be my fault, however its the fault of the people, I'm already doing what I can

it's the fault of each individual, that the invasion is not happening, because they are just not ready to move their ass and fight... like I said, everybody would need to go there on his own, I'm not your daddy holding hands bringing you out there

therefore if people are not ready to fight the goons because they are all scared to death, this one man show of mine needs more weapons to do it alone, its that simple

You failed because you are trying to act like a leader but have no ability to lead. The goons do have leadership however, so they are victorious. You basically want a weapon that makes up for your lack of personal ability.

Short of it is though, if this weapon existed, the goons would simply bring thousands of them into battle and smash everybody with them, and they have the isk to back it, while you would 1 shot a fleet then be broke. Then you'd be back on here crying at how its overpowered.

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Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#144 - 2013-08-11 16:19:48 UTC
Oh yeah, it's a failure because I am oh so frightened of blowing up pixels...

It's failed because you started to act like a jerk since the first one instead of setting a second one and ignoring haters
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#145 - 2013-08-11 17:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
Oh yeah, it's a failure because I am oh so frightened of blowing up pixels...

It's failed because you started to act like a jerk since the first one instead of setting a second one and ignoring haters


you are the only failure dude, you are lacking the commitment for this journey, zero kills, if everybody in the team would have killed as many ships as me this would already be much bigger, but you prefer to talk, and talk, and talk

I explained you how to do it, start with cynos to get into it, then move on with haulers like i did, you did not even shoot a cyno poor boy

blocking you now, because you like it so much

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#146 - 2013-08-11 17:49:14 UTC
"Its not the king of highsecs fault that his invasion failed, it is the fault of the individuals"

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#147 - 2013-08-11 17:56:51 UTC
I'm wondering just how big Harry's block list is these days? At the rate he's going he'll have 50% of posters blocked within 3 months.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#148 - 2013-08-11 18:11:35 UTC
Anything a single individual can do... an organized group can do better.

After all... what are groups if not collections of individuals?

How did you Veterans start?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#149 - 2013-08-11 19:28:17 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'm wondering just how big Harry's block list is these days? At the rate he's going he'll have 50% of posters blocked within 3 months.

I think he misses the point though. The reason these are public forums and not private messages is we can all see and contribute. The fact that he can't see any of our posts affects us to the sum of zero, while making him look even more ignorant.

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Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#150 - 2013-08-11 19:33:36 UTC
Wow, this guy is still kicking? I thought he'd get bored and quit upon discovering that shooting random frigates in VFK has absolutely no effect on the greater politics.

(Hell, from what I remember the locals it'll just amuse them to no end.)

Still wow this idea is so short-sighted and bad I'd love to see it implemented. After all, 100 CFC pilots, 100 billion-bombs and one hisec system? Hilarity waiting to happen.

(Oh, and wait, I'm an individual person, a lone nullsec warrior that has the money to buy a billionbomb. Does that mean I can buy one and bravely kamikaze myself into Jita, obliterating the entire undock for JUST one billion ISK? If so - one bomb please, someone needs to open the eyes of those blind hisec sheep)

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#151 - 2013-08-11 21:18:52 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'm wondering just how big Harry's block list is these days? At the rate he's going he'll have 50% of posters blocked within 3 months.

I think he misses the point though. The reason these are public forums and not private messages is we can all see and contribute. The fact that he can't see any of our posts affects us to the sum of zero, while making him look even more ignorant.

Missing the point is the least of his worries Twisted

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#152 - 2013-08-11 21:43:21 UTC
I keep seeing this Harry Forever guy keep talking about how he wants this weapon to fight big groups.

I don't think he understands that anything he can get one of, the big groups can get that many more of them.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#153 - 2013-08-11 21:47:52 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I keep seeing this Harry Forever guy keep talking about how he wants this weapon to fight big groups.

I don't think he understands that anything he can get one of, the big groups can get that many more of them.

Clearly not.

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#154 - 2013-08-11 22:02:32 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:

I was suggesting the "Azerothonian Death Beam" a while back in F&I, a weapon that would delete your eve account and start a new WoW account for you immediately after.
But you guys didn't like the idea :(

That is specifically prohibited by the Geneva Internet Spacecrafts Convention as being too cruel of a weapon.

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#155 - 2013-08-11 22:23:25 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'm wondering just how big Harry's block list is these days? At the rate he's going he'll have 50% of posters blocked within 3 months.

I think he misses the point though. The reason these are public forums and not private messages is we can all see and contribute. The fact that he can't see any of our posts affects us to the sum of zero, while making him look even more ignorant.

High and Mighty Harry, missing the point..? Shocked Say it ain't so!
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#156 - 2013-08-11 22:32:11 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:

Still wow this idea is so short-sighted and bad I'd love to see it implemented. After all, 100 CFC pilots, 100 billion-bombs and one hisec system? Hilarity waiting to happen.

I just want to see him mega-nuke himself. Which will be fatally hilarious. Twisted

Oh, and "BillionBomb..?" Genius. Utterly brilliant. Cool
Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#157 - 2013-08-11 22:35:19 UTC
Seetesh wrote:
Nukes in space ? Seriously, you realise they are pretty useless in a space environment and only work planet side.


well we can make dustbunnystew with m
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#158 - 2013-08-11 22:44:25 UTC
You know what, totally support this idea.

The [Faction] "Darwin" Billionbomb:
"Stick it to the man!"

Volume: 3000m^3
Explosion Radius: 500km
Signature Radius: 1m (It needs to hit even pods for full damage, of course!)
Damage: 1,000,000 HP EM (Blood Raider)/Kinetic (Guristas)/Thermal (Serpentis) or Explosive (Domination)
Restrictions: Cannot be fired, just detonated while in hold. Will vaporize the owner's ship and hurl his ass, still on fire, away from the mayhem so he can watch. Can be used in all of space.

"The pirate factions of New Eden long warned the Empire that if they start rewarding Capsuleers for hunting down their own, bad things will happen. Tags4Sec program was the straw that broke the camel's back, and all four turned to the likeminded pod pilots for help - providing them, as immortals, with blueprints of bombs that would remind High Security Space just what exactly fear is."

Blueprint:
~1b worth of minerals to build, perfect skills will reduce to 999,999.99 million ISK (+ tax, of course. Gotta pay The Man!)
Available FREE at your local NPC pirate station!
30 days build time.

(At this point honestly I still don't know if harry is trolling or is he really trying to do something.)

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#159 - 2013-08-11 22:51:07 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

you are the only failure dude, you are lacking the commitment for this journey, zero kills, if everybody in the team would have killed as many ships as me this would already be much bigger, but you prefer to talk, and talk, and talk

I explained you how to do it, start with cynos to get into it, then move on with haulers like i did, you did not even shoot a cyno poor boy

blocking you now, because you like it so much


1- Failure? I showed up to your event. That's all that I promised to do. Check your own promises and see how much you acomplished. I just checked your killboard: 60 kills, 90% noobships, 10% industrials. Congrats, by all the time you spend in null you should have at least double that, but I don't think noobships hand around much there. By all you brag in here I was expecting at least an obelisk. Don't bother with looking mine, I know I don't have many kills, but I'm not the one making promisses and braging Blink

When you point one finger at others, three other fingers point to you. As you like to think everything is the same in RL and in the game, I can only think you're a failure in real life as well. Either that, or you think you'll change the world driving a garbage truck.

Wait, sorry, garbage truck drivers actually do make a difference to others.

2- Commitment? Son, if you want me to spend hours looking at an empty space background, something so boring that you admited you'd drop the game soon or join the Goons using your "contacts" to have fun, you'd better start plexing my account too, because that's not why I am subbing to this game.

3- I don't need you to teach me to shot cynos, what's so hard about that? I'm just not going to null to shoot something that can't fight back, there are much better things to do in this game.

4- Block me all you want, it seems to be the only pleasure you're getting out of this game.

5- Since your blocks are as effective as your kills and you said you'll drop the game soon, I can't skip the opportunity: can I haz ur stuff?

6- You'd better keep that WCS on your ship if you don't want a ride in my cargo hold...
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#160 - 2013-08-11 23:14:16 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
if this weapon existed, the goons would simply bring thousands of them into battle and smash everybody with them, and they have the isk to back it, while you would 1 shot a fleet then be broke. Then you'd be back on here crying at how its overpowered.


Isn't it great that EVE has such players that would argue against their own interest for the good of the game? If I were a Goon or other CFC member who could just obliterate my opponents with inexhaustible supplies of "mini-nukes", I'd be arguing FOR them to be put into the game. Not the CFC, though. For the good of EVE, for the sake of "game balance" and "fairness", they are willing forego all these advantageous suggestions. They are always looking out for the little guys, when the little guys naively ask for things they think would level the playing field, but that would really only increase the stranglehold the CFC has on the game. I think everyone owes the CFC and Goonswarm in particular a great big "thank you". Thank you Goonswarm for always working to make this a fair and fun game for everyone.