Wormholes

Actually.. hehe oh this is an evil idea.

Massive Black Hole Effect. Causing the ripping of space to produce more wormholes.

1) Any wormhole connecting into or out of a Black hole now triples in mass based on the level of the wormhole its connecting to (meaning you could potentially jump battleships into a c1 by flying it from your wormhole, through a blackhole wormhole, then into the target system, or dreads into and out of c2-c4's). Also means that a C5/C6, you can jump in 6 to 8 dreads/carriers, vs the typical 2 to 3. Note: Kspace would get this boost, but no supercapitals or titans would be able to jump through it.
2) 72 hour connection (aka lasts 3 days once spawned).
3) Increase of random spawning of wormholes (meaning Black hole Wormholes receives and produces more random connections than a normal wormhole). Can potentially have anywhere from 6 to 20 different wormholes via a black hole effect.
4) Removal of the static signature of a black hole, that system is solely based on random holes (ALLOT of random holes)


An effect that turns the blackhole wormhole systems into a GIANT intersection might work. People would try to look for black holes just so they can use its size for raids, rights, moving large amounts of equipment, etc.

These holes are expected to be more of a place of transit than to live in, I would consider removing all moons from the black hole (Yes I know people currently live there, but there should be some corrective system for it).

Turn black holes into the wormhole transit hubs, allowing people to run sleeper sites, gas sites, etc in connecting holes with much less worry of there hole being collapsed upon. Random action from a black hole may encourage a bit more combat (and it would add more of a random factor, as people could potentially utilize black holes to find the home systems of certain people).

Black holes should be scary, allowing for allot of randomness, multiple wormhole spawns, and hunting, LOTS of hunting.

I'm actually thinking much more basic. Literally turn it into a transit hub. It would be one of the places wormholers go to for pvp (lets say its the Rancer of wormhole space), it'd be one of the places wormholers go if they want to be a nomad (easy to find multiple connections to systems they want to go to, and entrances large enough to fit a fleet in, and take out, and ontop of it, have 2 to 3 days before it closes), it'd be the area's for those looking to do invasions, harassment, of other corps holes. Ontop of it, if a corporation wants to "role" their connecting black hole, they would either have to commit more ships to killing the mass, or commit more time to killing the hole.

Wormholes have a 10% deviation on mass when they are spawned, a wormhole 3 to 6 times its size due to the black hole effect should cause that deviation to be much more chaotic (or possibly simpler if you are good at math).

But wormholes may need actual "staging" systems, and black holes might be the answer to that.

Leave the BH effect as it is right now. Remove all moons from them and reallocate them to C7 - C9 systems. Those systems won´t have any static or even an outgoing WH. There will only be random WH´s connecting to them.

Random WH from C1 or C2 will connect to C7.
Random WH from C3 or C4 will connect to C8.
Random WH from C5 or C6 will connect to C9.

Make them to PvP zones, but to offer more PvP you will need to encourage the greed of the carebears. Give it anything which is valuable to loose 4 or 5 T3´s or Caps, depending on its category, or maybe more valuable. But it should take a while to get it. Time and Mass also denpending on its category.
Maybe give it parts to build a strategic outpost which can only get anchored in wormhole systems or something like that. Anything new which is worth to fight for.

I think they should be left alone. I also think that more systems should have 'difficult' effects and not all systems should be beneficial.

I'll never get over this 'this should be 'fixed' and 'that should be made easier for me' mentality that is prevalent in Eve.

This game is meant to present the harsh reality of space combat. There should be harsh environments to challenge people to adapt and thrive in areas where the noobs or the faint at heart don't dare to go.

Make the harsher environments more lucrative in line with Eve's isk vs risk model. Something like better PI, moon mining (what!?), more challenging sleepers (but more salvage/loot) - that kind of thing.

in other words, 100% yield increase to ore and gas harvesting...

You are of course, completely wrong.

My Vaga: Optimal 1.8km, falloff 24km with Barrage.

C4 black hole 34% penalty to falloff results in...(drumroll) Optimal 1.8km, falloff 16km.

Oh, and you do understand how falloff works to reduce DPS? You're hitting 50% of your paper DPS at 17.8km instead of at 25.8km with the Vaga. Goodbye kiting.

This is the same for blasters with Null, pulses with Scorch. You are aware that faster speed = worse tracking? Even under webs, the black hole speed effects result in penalties to blaster boats. The Optimal on a blaster is 1.2 to 1.8km, and falloff is equally short; if you slice the Falloff on Blasters then you have to fight in Optimal.

So. Missile velocity -34% results in less range, but equal damage. Unless you are like Cade Windstalker and can't see this as, by default, a harder nerf to turrets than missiles...you haven't actually thought this through.

How is less damage at closer range a benefit to turrets and not to missiles? Name me one HML Drake or Tengu which is going to suffer having their missile range (of 72km) cut by a third, which is still well within dissy range...versus a Vaga which in a C4 BH can't even hit at kiting point range?

You people have obviously never fought in a BH.

I thought C7, C8 and C9 equaled the kspace systems already?

Correct, C7 is Highsec, C8 is Lowsec and C9 is Nullsec.

I know this isn't exactly what you want, but while on the subject.

Could the art team take a look at the Black Hole graphic? It could do with an update if they have any spare time.

More Tracking
Less Range (Lock Range, Drone Control, Missile Velocity, Falloff OR Optimal)
More Speed
Less Agility

So put simply, give it a bonus to tracking.

and

Also the range reduction effects could stand to do with a bit of a curb, right now black holes reduce falloff AND optimal which makes them pretty damning for PvE.