EVE General Discussion

Its the raven being re-designed(not sure if anyone linked it already, didnt read through :P)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kBAWayqELU

towards the end ;)

Oddly enough, I like the Moa. It has character. And reflects Caldari efficiency and engineering prowess. Caldari build the ship's systems first, placing them in the most efficient locations, and simply balance the output of the ship's engines to compensate for the asymmetrical distribution of mass. It's interesting to see how that philosophy carries over to Gallente ships, some of which are also not terribly symmetric, even if they are rather more elegant.

In general, I dislike the prevalence of perfectly symmetric and aerodynamic ships in many science fiction films and games nowadays. It shows a rather unfortunate lack of imagination. There's no drag in space, even if in EVE the drag of a warp core against the warp interface makes ships behave as though they are in a liquid medium. So there's no need to make sure everything is nice an aerodynamic.

instead of redesign some spaceship in eve. i think we should have more design of each spaceship type, may be start from cruise so we can have more new design we satisfy with to drive in game. this is my opionion. to keep original feeling in the game we should not take away old(time) design and slowly come along with new things. and every spaceship should have the story on it.

another idea, may be player can design our own spaceship, different from the game design, player can freely design any part of the spaceship. example, when your skills reached for a battleship. we will get a battleship's structure than we design on it or we start design from structure til the last procedure. after or while designing new our spaceship we also can design of ability of the spaceship too. normally we depend on ability of our skills training, game spaceship fixed abilities and all equiment.

i have not much experienc in eve yet, my idea would be useless. :) and apologize with my english is not strong.

Definately the Moa, there aren't words for how ugly that ***** is, its like a load of freezer components have just been welded together. I like to imagine that the scientists and engineers who designed it never actually met, that it was such a secret project that not all of them knew it was a ship they were building, and when they finally came together the project leader was like "ah fuckit" closes his eyes, spins and points upwards "Pod goes in there, just weld it all together". Also some new sexier noob ships might be nice, the most distressing part of blowing up for me is the knowledge that when I dock there will be a new Felator waiting for me. Hmm thanks insurance company wtf did I ever do to you?

Chimera; Not ugly but needs some more texture love.
Phoenix; Big cunk of metal, needs some more details.
Miningbarges/Exhumers and/or Orca; Restyle to Rorqual/Noctis/Primea style
Blackbird; do i realy need to explain this?
Osprey; not sure about this one though, kind of like his weird look. (Pregnant somethign beast.)

I'm happy enough with the Condor hulls, but I can get behind this design. I don't need perfect symmetry in a ship, but I won't complain about it unless it gets to pervasive. Asymmetry in the designs is one of the characteristic features in Eve's ships.

I like the top mounted launchers and it echoes the Caracal design in a way, which is one of my favorite hulls in the Caldari line.

I'm quite happy with a world that has more variety than just sports cars.

i can only speak as an amarr from this particular stand point... i suggest you make over: gallente ships, minmatar ships, and caldari ships.. ALL of them in that order. and i guess if you were so inclined as to try to improve on the perfection that is amarrian beauty.... the crucifier (frigate) and the bestower (industrial) should start from scratch. and considering that a navy slicer blueprint requires a punisher (not an executioner) perhaps the slicer should look more punisher like...and less executioner like. any attempt to alter other amarr ships will be considered an act of war.

my list of ugly ships needing makeovers

Amarr Race

Aeon
Crucifier/Sentinel
Tormentor

Caldari Race

Ibis
Bantam
Griffin/Kitsune
Moa/Eagle/Onyx/Gila
Osprey/Basilisk
Caracal/Cerberus
Raven

Gallente Race

Velator
Imicus/Helios
Catalyst/Eris
Exequror/Onerious
Celestis/Arazu/Lachesis
Thorax/Phobos/Diemos/Vigilant
Dominix/Sin
Iterons 1 to 5/Viator & Occator

Minmatar Race

Reaper
Burst
Slasher/Claw/Stiletto
Vigil/Hyena
Bellicose/Rapier/Huginn
Scythe/Scimitar
Typhoon/Panther
Fenrir/Nomad

Faction Ships

Sansha - Revenant - looks like a lump of dung
Sansha - Phantasm

The Proteus needs to be fatter, especially with drone subsystem and a more defined front, looks too much like a bent hot dog now without the EWAR electronic subsystem. I'd prefer a kind of mini Domi/Thanatos/Ishtar something something.

Lachesis looks a bit daft

The Apoc hull sucks, looks like something took two bites of it and left the rest since it sucked too much. It lacks the Amarr "all your loot are belong to us" look, flimsy and not projecting power.

The Moa hull is a little bad too, needs some spicing up.

The Amarr yellow is not good enough, it had better colors before, should think about bringing some more shine back and not looking like washed out yellow.

The Ishkur front spike is horrible, what's it supposed to be? Air to air refuel spike? Get rid of it.

IMO.