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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#121 - 2011-10-28 12:49:08 UTC
Aaron Barton wrote:
I'd love to see some ships get a makeover. Just some ideas of mine:

Raven - make the two wings the same size and shape, but transfer that protrusion on the right wing to the left; pull in those radial spikes under the right wing just a bit; breakup the windows on the cockpit to look like several levels instead of giant windows; get rid of the tubes; center the model along the cockpit-engine axis

Moa - keep the off-center bridge part and lower right engine thing, they balance each other; either mirror the left engine pod on the left with the right, mirroring the body as well, or mirror the right side with the left; align the model to a central axis that runs between the two engines in the rear (currently feels like it's slightly off-center to those)

Coercer - just make the body and engines symmetrical, mirror either side with the other, while keeping the side cockpit

Imicus - straighten out the main body so it's freakin' vertical and then mirror the side wing

Tempest - move the bottom leg to the center of the ship, maybe center that engine pod on the bottom of it as well

Stabber - mirror that engine on the right with the left

Typhoon - get rid of that thing on the bottom rear that looks like a lowered landing platform; remove that engine on the upper left; get rid of the giant tubes, or maybe makes them thinner and more numerous, like a bunch of smaller tubes instead of one giant one

Omen - get rid of that side thing, the shield arm I've heard it commonly called

Crucifier - maybe mirror the right side with the left, but keep the tower as well, just add something to that side so it doesn't look so unbalanced

Kestral - pull in that right pod just a bit, so it's the same distance from the center as the left pod; mirror the rear of the right pod with the left; straighten out the angle of the right wing tip and make it symmetrical with the left

Blackbird - generally mirror the right side with the left, make it kinda look like a flying wing, but keep the asymmetrical central structures

Thorax - mirror the right side onto the left, that whole lower engine pod looks really cool

Exequror - just balance and make even the engines

Celestis - just mirror the left side, sans that cockpit, onto the right

Machariel - get rid of that pod on the upper left, but keep that tower there

Megathron - get rid of that pod on the upper left as well

Atron - mirror the left side onto the right, minus that side cockpit

Osprey - just mirror the right side onto the left

Navitas - mirror the right side onto the left

Bantam - just make it symmetrical

Cormorant - make the rear wings symmetrical, but keep that cockpit like structure on the left side

Aeon - make it symmetrical

Phoenix - make those wings symmetrical

Thanatos - just make the rear and engines symmetrical



Good ideas, and relatively easy to do :) That would take me a month or so to do and then make final drafts.

+1 from Petey, with love.

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Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2011-10-28 12:52:01 UTC
Cpt Fina wrote:
Calapine wrote:
Hands off the Dominix, it's one the most distinctive ships ingame (and beyond)!

I am at loss why not more Dominix-lovers are speaking up here, I suppose they are too busy pwning all over Eve to find time to post. Smile



Word. Don't understand where all the domi hate comes from. It's more beautiful and characteristic than any of the T3s tbh.


Because it looks like a manatee.Bear
Which can be considered as adorable in a chubby way, but when you are talking about warships, "adorable in a chubby way" isn´t exactly the design philosophy you want to go for.
You can look into the next mirror if you want chubbyTwisted, but warships should look badass, or funktional, or dangerous or whatever, just not like this manatee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtP-uNTTdso

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Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#123 - 2011-10-28 13:05:58 UTC
typhoon, come on! there's an open platform under the thrusters with a box on it. what purpose does that serve?
also, the bellicose is a freak, and not in a good way.

on the caldari side, we have quite a few ugly birds, im thinking of the moa, caracal and ofc the osprey.

gallente, id say the exequror is not pretty.

amarr, help me out here?
ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#124 - 2011-10-28 13:30:43 UTC  |  Edited by: ArmyOfMe
Aaron Barton wrote:
I'd love to see some ships get a makeover. Just some ideas of mine:

Raven - make the two wings the same size and shape, but transfer that protrusion on the right wing to the left; pull in those radial spikes under the right wing just a bit; breakup the windows on the cockpit to look like several levels instead of giant windows; get rid of the tubes; center the model along the cockpit-engine axis

Moa - keep the off-center bridge part and lower right engine thing, they balance each other; either mirror the left engine pod on the left with the right, mirroring the body as well, or mirror the right side with the left; align the model to a central axis that runs between the two engines in the rear (currently feels like it's slightly off-center to those)

Coercer - just make the body and engines symmetrical, mirror either side with the other, while keeping the side cockpit

Imicus - straighten out the main body so it's freakin' vertical and then mirror the side wing

Tempest - move the bottom leg to the center of the ship, maybe center that engine pod on the bottom of it as well

Stabber - mirror that engine on the right with the left

Typhoon - get rid of that thing on the bottom rear that looks like a lowered landing platform; remove that engine on the upper left; get rid of the giant tubes, or maybe makes them thinner and more numerous, like a bunch of smaller tubes instead of one giant one

Omen - get rid of that side thing, the shield arm I've heard it commonly called

Crucifier - maybe mirror the right side with the left, but keep the tower as well, just add something to that side so it doesn't look so unbalanced

Kestral - pull in that right pod just a bit, so it's the same distance from the center as the left pod; mirror the rear of the right pod with the left; straighten out the angle of the right wing tip and make it symmetrical with the left

Blackbird - generally mirror the right side with the left, make it kinda look like a flying wing, but keep the asymmetrical central structures

Thorax - mirror the right side onto the left, that whole lower engine pod looks really cool

Exequror - just balance and make even the engines

Celestis - just mirror the left side, sans that cockpit, onto the right

Machariel - get rid of that pod on the upper left, but keep that tower there

Megathron - get rid of that pod on the upper left as well

Atron - mirror the left side onto the right, minus that side cockpit

Osprey - just mirror the right side onto the left

Navitas - mirror the right side onto the left

Bantam - just make it symmetrical

Cormorant - make the rear wings symmetrical, but keep that cockpit like structure on the left side

Aeon - make it symmetrical

Phoenix - make those wings symmetrical

Thanatos - just make the rear and engines symmetrical

Or, just make every ship into a flying square cube. That way every ship look the same. Pretty much the way u want it by the sound of itRoll

The blackbird is one of the most amazing looking ships in this game tbh, and so is the tempest.
And dont u dare touch the Aeon, cause i love making fun of it since it looks like an amazing mix between the archon and a bestower

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.
ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#125 - 2011-10-28 13:32:59 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

Nope, i quite enjoy the shipBig smile

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#126 - 2011-10-28 13:46:26 UTC
I know all of my ships in the shipyard needs a make over some even retirment.

Ill tell you what doesnt need a makeover

Megathron
Nyx
Thorax
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Abbadon
Rokh
Kestrel
Merlin
Rifter

I mean all those ships are a bit too iconic to be changing up.

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Selar Nox
#127 - 2011-10-28 13:52:09 UTC
TheButcherPete wrote:
Aaron Barton wrote:
I'd love to see some ships get a makeover. Just some ideas of mine:

Raven - make the two wings the same size and shape, but transfer that protrusion on the right wing to the left; pull in those radial spikes under the right wing just a bit; breakup the windows on the cockpit to look like several levels instead of giant windows; get rid of the tubes; center the model along the cockpit-engine axis

Moa - keep the off-center bridge part and lower right engine thing, they balance each other; either mirror the left engine pod on the left with the right, mirroring the body as well, or mirror the right side with the left; align the model to a central axis that runs between the two engines in the rear (currently feels like it's slightly off-center to those)

Coercer - just make the body and engines symmetrical, mirror either side with the other, while keeping the side cockpit

Imicus - straighten out the main body so it's freakin' vertical and then mirror the side wing

Tempest - move the bottom leg to the center of the ship, maybe center that engine pod on the bottom of it as well

Stabber - mirror that engine on the right with the left

Typhoon - get rid of that thing on the bottom rear that looks like a lowered landing platform; remove that engine on the upper left; get rid of the giant tubes, or maybe makes them thinner and more numerous, like a bunch of smaller tubes instead of one giant one

Omen - get rid of that side thing, the shield arm I've heard it commonly called

Crucifier - maybe mirror the right side with the left, but keep the tower as well, just add something to that side so it doesn't look so unbalanced

Kestral - pull in that right pod just a bit, so it's the same distance from the center as the left pod; mirror the rear of the right pod with the left; straighten out the angle of the right wing tip and make it symmetrical with the left

Blackbird - generally mirror the right side with the left, make it kinda look like a flying wing, but keep the asymmetrical central structures

Thorax - mirror the right side onto the left, that whole lower engine pod looks really cool

Exequror - just balance and make even the engines

Celestis - just mirror the left side, sans that cockpit, onto the right

Machariel - get rid of that pod on the upper left, but keep that tower there

Megathron - get rid of that pod on the upper left as well

Atron - mirror the left side onto the right, minus that side cockpit

Osprey - just mirror the right side onto the left

Navitas - mirror the right side onto the left

Bantam - just make it symmetrical

Cormorant - make the rear wings symmetrical, but keep that cockpit like structure on the left side

Aeon - make it symmetrical

Phoenix - make those wings symmetrical

Thanatos - just make the rear and engines symmetrical



Good ideas, and relatively easy to do :) That would take me a month or so to do and then make final drafts.

+1 from Petey, with love.

No, please not. Would result in too much symmetry.

The asymmetric design is one of the things that make EVE-ships stand out of most of the SciFi-crowd. (This should not imply every ship should be asymmetrical). But I have to agree one or two tweaks here and there could help with the "believability" of some results of crazy engineer parties...

I really like the new design approach (textures and stuff) but making a the scorpion hull symmetrical was a big mistake in my eyes. Directly followed by make it look like it's biological namesake. Ships get designed/built and a name is chosen how it looks like (if at all) and not the other way round... Well not entirely sure about Gallente engineers, but it's definitely not the approach of cold Caldari efficiency.

And yes I also like the overall design of the Moa how it is right now (though textures etc could be updated)
TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#128 - 2011-10-28 13:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: TheButcherPete
No, please not. Would result in too much symmetry.

The asymmetric design is one of the things that make EVE-ships stand out of most of the SciFi-crowd. (This should not imply every ship should be asymmetrical). But I have to agree one or two tweaks here and there could help with the "believability" of some results of crazy engineer parties...

I really like the new design approach (textures and stuff) but making a the scorpion hull symmetrical was a big mistake in my eyes. Directly followed by make it look like it's biological namesake. Ships get designed/built and a name is chosen how it looks like (if at all) and not the other way round... Well not entirely sure about Gallente engineers, but it's definitely not the approach of cold Caldari efficiency.

And yes I also like the overall design of the Moa how it is right now (though textures etc could be updated)


I'll have what you're smoking dude. Moa looks like a dilapidated chicken.

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Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2011-10-28 14:08:19 UTC
By the way, fun fact:

The Dominix is as ugly as sin.

Shocked

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.
Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
#130 - 2011-10-28 14:21:57 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
Am I the only one that likes the Moa?


No, I like them too. Moa, old Scorpion.. asymmetrical ,pure functional and grayish designs are true Caldari beauties. I wish , the Tengu would go in this direction.

Besides, the Typhoon has a superb design. A mobile scrap metal factory with a docking area. One of the best models In Eve.


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Evenus Battuta
#131 - 2011-10-28 14:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Evenus Battuta
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Dominix is not the most ugly ship but it needs midification most. because it looks exactly the same as those rogue drones----something evoloved totally on themselves and uninterfered by the human. It doesn't make sense that they have the same look as human made spaceship.

I suggest that you redo the dominix and leave the rogue drones as they are----domi is ugly anyway.

BTW, the MOST ugly ship, in my opinion, is Typhoon the space dustbin.



You got it backwards.

Rogue drones salvage everything they can.. and so they salvaged dominixes and repurpused them for their use.


turned out not everything actually, just domi. Come on just redo the domi and make the current tentacled-domi a new faction ship you can fly----that means another faction ship with its own design besides macharial and nightmare, the looking is acceptable if its not designed by humanBig smile.and I do love those tentacles.

The federation captured some rogue drones and finally managed to interfere its nerve system and control it, G+A mix battleship, no turret slot and 10 drones, sth like this, easy story.
Luxi Daphiti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2011-10-28 14:50:34 UTC
Change the Hulk.

Make it 10 times larger.

So I can feel superior.
Evilan Altana
Ishtars Online
#133 - 2011-10-28 15:03:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Evilan Altana
I pretty much agree with Florestan. Although, I would love to see a few ships receive some tweaks/re-vamps anyway.

Honestly, the only ships I don't mind at all are Minmatar. Their hulls are awesome. As well as the majority of Gallente ships.

Ugliest ship? Easy: Moa. I understand that functionality and efficiency talk, but come on :D For me, Caldari ships in general look like they're assembled out of dumpsters. :D That's why I don't fly them almost ever (one big exception is the Crow)
Anna Hyperthron
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2011-10-28 15:18:10 UTC
Mining Barge, and Exhumers.
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2011-10-28 15:39:53 UTC
Solhild wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
there was a domi that a eve player made that sleeked it up but retained the entire shape still.

It was along this lines but the guy made a model and skinned it.

....

bleh I cant find it, i know its bad when I go searching for a ship picture somone else did and I find my deleted ones.


Was this it?

domi

Not sure if he ever finished it.

EDIT - no idea why the forums don't like this post


omg. It looks like a two wheel roadster.......... not the new look the domi needs.
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2011-10-28 15:40:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Satav
Solhild wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
there was a domi that a eve player made that sleeked it up but retained the entire shape still.

It was along this lines but the guy made a model and skinned it.

....

bleh I cant find it, i know its bad when I go searching for a ship picture somone else did and I find my deleted ones.


Was this it?

domi

Not sure if he ever finished it.

EDIT - no idea why the forums don't like this post


Omg. It looks like a two wheel roadster........ not the new look that the domi needs.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#137 - 2011-10-28 15:45:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Nope thats not that one, this look almost like a muscle race car'd version of a domi. The primary shape still there it was just more sleeked out agressive.

I tried looking for the model again and found another one of my ships I swore I didnt upload at and had to send an email request for take down as the poster was clearly not me on the website.

Found this picture the model I saw wasnt as tall but the idea is similar.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Razin/Domi_cut-1.jpg

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Kassasis Dakkstromri
State War Academy
Caldari State
#138 - 2011-10-28 15:46:01 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
Jennifer Starling wrote:
CCP Atropos wrote:
Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

I guess so? P

Cry



I like it, but will like it a whole lot better after the Hybrid rebalance!

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Selar Nox
#139 - 2011-10-28 15:46:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Selar Nox
TheButcherPete wrote:
Selar Nox wrote:
No, please not. Would result in too much symmetry.

The asymmetric design is one of the things that make EVE-ships stand out of most of the SciFi-crowd. (This should not imply every ship should be asymmetrical). But I have to agree one or two tweaks here and there could help with the "believability" of some results of crazy engineer parties...

I really like the new design approach (textures and stuff) but making a the scorpion hull symmetrical was a big mistake in my eyes. Directly followed by make it look like it's biological namesake. Ships get designed/built and a name is chosen how it looks like (if at all) and not the other way round... Well not entirely sure about Gallente engineers, but it's definitely not the approach of cold Caldari efficiency.

And yes I also like the overall design of the Moa how it is right now (though textures etc could be updated)



I'll have what you're smoking dude. Moa looks like a dilapidated chicken.

No way, all mine.
Amro One
One.
#140 - 2011-10-28 15:47:29 UTC
Your mom needs a makeover.