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I've been war deced by Cannibal Kane (cease fire aggreed)

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Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-07 14:20:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Otichoda
My corp has just been War deced by Cannibal Kane

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=757025

What the hell am I supposed to do!

This guy is a killing machine against what is mainly an industrial corp.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-08-07 14:22:26 UTC
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-08-07 14:23:15 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?
Darius Onok
Parthenon Inc.
#4 - 2013-08-07 14:24:31 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?



You can talk to Cannibal and figure out what his price is to end the wardec.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-07 14:26:45 UTC
Darius Onok wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?



You can talk to Cannibal and figure out what his price is to end the wardec.


I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-08-07 14:29:19 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Darius Onok wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?



You can talk to Cannibal and figure out what his price is to end the wardec.


I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?

heh, good one.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Leafar Nightfall
The Pannion Domin
#7 - 2013-08-07 14:38:20 UTC
It's the second time I see that in the forum hahaha

He does that just for the lulz and to see who will come to the forums to complain about that Lol
Trudeaux Margaret
The Scope
#8 - 2013-08-07 14:40:01 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Darius Onok wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?



You can talk to Cannibal and figure out what his price is to end the wardec.


I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?


Congratulations.


> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2013-08-07 14:43:16 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:

I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?

Nope, saying stuff has consequences.

This is actually the first time I've heard of in-game retribution over forum posting. You must have really pushed his buttons one way or another. Good job.

Your options are:

  • Talk to him and figure out what you can do to make the wardec drop (sounds like it isn't working)
  • Hire allies to help
  • Fight him
  • Avoid him (there are plenty of ways to do so, no matter how industry-oriented you are)
  • Disband corp, form new one (doesn't solve anything if he wardecs you again)
  • Dock up and don't log on to Eve until he gets bored and drops the wardec


A tip, though: the last option is very un-fun, wastes your money, and is equivalent to surrendering to Kane. Take the fun route and do one of the other things.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#10 - 2013-08-07 14:48:55 UTC
Try to learn from this war dec.
As an industrial corp you will get war decced by random people on a semi regular basis, some who has a reason for the war dec, others that just picked your name out of a hat basically.

And who knows, maybe if you and your corp members show a good attitude about this Kane will be willing and able to give you valuable advice on how to handle future war decs that might have crippled your corp even more then this current war dec does.

Good luck Smile
Malak Alraheem
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-08-07 14:53:09 UTC
When I was a young pod pilot we got decced and one of our guys just went 20 jumps away and kept playing (he was a mining pilot back then). The guys attacking didn't want to bother coming after him because they didn't want to waste an hour getting over to there. He happened to have a jump clone and could have skipped back to the originally site if they had actually tried. It ended up being quite entertaining in the long run as he ended up documenting a lot of it.

Starts at post #38
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=969783&page=2#38
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-08-07 15:01:04 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:


And who knows, maybe if you and your corp members show a good attitude about this Kane will be willing and able to give you valuable advice on how to handle future war decs that might have crippled your corp even more then this current war dec.


unlikely

there is only 2-3 people who are actually have any expereince in pvp (including me) all the rest are entirely industry and mining. In other words this entire corp is going to have to hide tommorow because one guy wants to beat me up.

And when is Kane going to show his face in this thread?
Darius Onok
Parthenon Inc.
#13 - 2013-08-07 15:01:41 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Darius Onok wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?



You can talk to Cannibal and figure out what his price is to end the wardec.


I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?



Your only option then is to stand your ground and fight. Challenge him to a duel at high noon in a neutral system with the stakes that the loser has to leave town forever. There is a good chance that your show of sudden fortitude will scare him off and he won't show up and you'll be free to build your wares in peace for the rest of your days. Always remembering the day you bested Cannibal Kane.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#14 - 2013-08-07 15:03:14 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
And when is Kane going to show his face in this thread?

Don't count on him showing up. If I were him I'd get a bucket of popcorn and chuckle to myself while reading this thread and trying to kill people in your corp.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#15 - 2013-08-07 15:07:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
Quote:
I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?


No. EVE is a game where actions (even if that action is saying stuff) have consequences. For what it's worth, for all the forum whining you've done about stuff you don't actually understand (making threads complaining about balance when you've barely dipped your feet into PVP in particular...), I'm surprised he is the only one to wardec you.



Regardless, it's far easier to avoid a fight than force a fight. If you make proper use of the tools at your disposal (station insta-undock bookmarks, smaller/faster ships, local chat) then you can successfully avoid getting ganked all while making him pay a nontrivial amount of ISK ot maintain the wardec. Another option is to simply convo him and see what it would take ot resolve the issue.
Ekhss Nihilo
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#16 - 2013-08-07 15:21:03 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Darius Onok wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
disband corp. form again with same name. profit.


is there nothing else we can do?



You can talk to Cannibal and figure out what his price is to end the wardec.


I've already tried that. He's taking it out on the corp because of what I've been saying on the forum. Is that against forum rules?

That's an aspect of what is commonly called "the metagame". That is, the things you do outside of the game can have consequences inside the game, viz, your wardec. Always something to consider...

"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)

Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-08-07 15:22:45 UTC
after checking the rules of war

THIS GOES ON FOR A WEEK?

oh my god. I thought this only lasted 24 hours. Now for a week we're going to be able to do nothing.

Who the **** thought this was a good system!
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-08-07 15:25:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
You do realise that whining and bitching on the forums about getting wardeced is going to encourage more people to wardec you?

p.s. It goes on minimum a week. The deccing corp then gets the opportunity to renew the wardec for another week
Ned Taggart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-08-07 15:29:14 UTC
War targets feed off your tears, so nut up and feed them your blood instead. Have everyone in your corp fit out a ship and take to the field. Fit out some DD, Logis, EWAR and tacklers and go after him. you may die a lot, but you will learn, and you might actually have some fun.

Next, Learn how to move around while at war. Set up station Instant warp out's, instant docks, gate bounces and system safes. Carry on mining or exploration or whatever it is that you do, just be smart about it and have someone picket the site, keeping an weather eye on D-Scan and local. Quit moving industrial's or have an out of corp alt move stuff around for you. Don't use autopilot, and check out gates before jumping. If you have enough people, train one to be a scout and report on any war targets in the immediate area.

And lastly, for the love of all that is holy, do not develop the mindset that you are a victim. Fight back. You may lose, but you will feel better about it.
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-08-07 15:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
Ned Taggart wrote:
War targets feed off your tears, so nut up and feed them your blood instead. Have everyone in your corp fit out a ship and take to the field. Fit out some DD, Logis, EWAR and tacklers and go after him. you may die a lot, but you will learn, and you might actually have some fun.

Next, Learn how to move around while at war. Set up station Instant warp out's, instant docks, gate bounces and system safes. Carry on mining or exploration or whatever it is that you do, just be smart about it and have someone picket the site, keeping an weather eye on D-Scan and local. Quit moving industrial's or have an out of corp alt move stuff around for you. Don't use autopilot, and check out gates before jumping. If you have enough people, train one to be a scout and report on any war targets in the immediate area.

And lastly, for the love of all that is holy, do not develop the mindset that you are a victim. Fight back. You may lose, but you will feel better about it.


There's also one tactic that involves safe spots and cloaking device. Extremely annoying against those hisec pvp corps that actually want to kill you. More wars they have the better. Longer you can keep their attention the better. Twisted
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