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Fast Food Generation hits hard in EvE

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#41 - 2013-08-06 18:12:59 UTC
the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#42 - 2013-08-06 18:15:23 UTC
I agree with you in some points, but to each their own

I wouldn't like to join a large corp/alliance because I like the underdog stories and want to make part of one. I would join the loosing side off a war probably

However I can see why people do that because, although I've never been in a battle like the one in Fountain, it must be pretty fun being in one of those. You may not get the fame, but you've been there and enjoyed it.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#43 - 2013-08-06 18:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
I agree with you in some points, but to each their own

I wouldn't like to join a large corp/alliance because I like the underdog stories and want to make part of one. I would join the loosing side off a war probably

However I can see why people do that because, although I've never been in a battle like the one in Fountain, it must be pretty fun being in one of those. You may not get the fame, but you've been there and enjoyed it.


sure thing, but they could make much more out of it... one mentioned it here: "where was the love..."

the excitment about it did not come accross well, it was just like here we got 4000 ships... the story around bad bobby for example was much more interesting, it also had big numbers in it, but still much more story content... it had personality

I think some people are concentrating too much on big numbers only... the war was just a supersize menu but not good cooking
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#44 - 2013-08-06 18:39:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Solstice Project wrote:
I do what i can.

The problem is that people don't even realise that they are playing the same ants
as they are in real life.




Existential moment coming from a cool avatar...



Meanwhile....



Sheep will be bred


and slaughtered

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#45 - 2013-08-06 18:48:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Can't join blob alliances because:
a) Too many work and family commitments. Unpredictable ones, too. Can't commit to spending uninterrupted hours in fleet (waiting for form-up, getting to destination, having camp-outs at gates, etc. etc.)
b) In a bureaucracy in RL, don't want to be in one ingame-- unless I'm at the very top of it!
c) Bad bladder. Need frequent bio breaks, big fleets leave me behind.
d) Cat aggro. Dog too, recently.
e) Being on voice comms interferes with running my mp3 playlist.
f) Running around as a neut solo in SOV space is too fun!

But mainly a) and f).
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#46 - 2013-08-06 18:59:39 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Addrake wrote:
Another OP complaining about people not playing the game the way he wants them to.

You'd think we'd be used to this by now.


no I'm telling the people they miss a lot in the game, nothing more

but we are used to dull comments like yours by now



Oh the irony

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#47 - 2013-08-06 19:23:12 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story

How much does a newbie ship cyno cost? Is it just the cost of the cyno module (you're already spent the LO by the time it dies I would assume).

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2013-08-06 19:25:36 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story

How much does a newbie ship cyno cost? Is it just the cost of the cyno module (you're already spent the LO by the time it dies I would assume).

i think you often need a t1 mpac and an extender as well, but you import like 1k of each and you're set for cynos forever on an alpha clone
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2013-08-06 19:28:16 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story
And still he's doing more than 90% of the game,
even if he's just trying.

That may or may be not more than you actually ever achieved ...

Sunbathing in the light of successes of a group is for weaklings, so these don't count.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#50 - 2013-08-06 19:30:04 UTC
Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:

- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in.
- the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2013-08-06 19:32:59 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story
And still he's doing more than 90% of the game,
even if he's just trying.

That may or may be not more than you actually ever achieved ...

Sunbathing in the light of successes of a group is for weaklings, so these don't count.

that's "technetium lord weaselior, sir" to you
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#52 - 2013-08-06 19:36:25 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:

- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in.
- the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)


True. And one fearless guy (who can identify himself here or not) has been in the game just long enough to run Level 3 missions... and do anoms deep in Goon space.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2013-08-06 19:41:05 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:

- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in.
- the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)


if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-08-06 19:42:39 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story
And still he's doing more than 90% of the game,
even if he's just trying.

That may or may be not more than you actually ever achieved ...

Sunbathing in the light of successes of a group is for weaklings, so these don't count.

that's "technetium lord weaselior, sir" to you
Hey weakling,
when you're done cleaning my shoes,
you can clean the toilet too.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-08-06 19:52:32 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
still those stories of those individuals are missing... they are not told... honestly I made a better story out of my cynokills alone Lol thats what I'm saying here... there is something missing about those big fleets in EvE, personality, at least nobody sees it... I think people just lack the courage to tell the story, because of all the dull comments they would get... thats bad


Why do you have the feeling you need to get known with internet e-peens and showoffs to have the feeling you have accomplish something worth of any attention?
The best players I know atm don't even post on GD or F&I for what its worth or probably with an alt, they're not searching whoever attention for what is worth of pixels or their admiration.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2013-08-06 19:56:31 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
still those stories of those individuals are missing... they are not told... honestly I made a better story out of my cynokills alone Lol thats what I'm saying here... there is something missing about those big fleets in EvE, personality, at least nobody sees it... I think people just lack the courage to tell the story, because of all the dull comments they would get... thats bad


Why do you have the feeling you need to get known with internet e-peens and showoffs to have the feeling you have accomplish something worth of any attention?
The best players I know atm don't even post on GD or F&I for what its worth or probably with an alt, they're not searching whoever attention for what is worth of pixels or their admiration.



its like reading a book, you don't like that, thats fine
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#57 - 2013-08-06 19:57:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:

- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in.
- the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)


if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless




Thanks to the ceaseless effort of forum warriors, a lot of people think those things. That's why there are more carebears in nullsec than highsec. That's why the so-called "pirates" are highsec hugging greifers preying on low-hanging fruit and noob harvesting for even they have been tricked by the Great Lie.

The real potential for loot, butthurt, and lols is in nullsec, in your territory, using your ships for target practice.

Nothing personal. This is a PVP game and a sandbox after all. Myself, Harry, and others, are trying to convince people that nullsec is not this no-mans land that requires fealty to an alliance just to gain entry.

Yeah I know, go to NPC nullsec. Well, we don't want to. In fact the Russians who live out there don't come to highsec ganking industrials and freighters complaining about how other people play. Some of those Russians help us.

Wormholes? Too quiet. They are good for getting past the intel channels though.


So what have we found? We find that while people complain about all that carebearing in highsec, nullsec only boosts its numbers by selling the same carebearing potential to players in nullsec. Yes there are hardcore PVPers who can be in fleet 23/7 ready to gank at a moments notice, and most of them are running highsec incursion alts.


But there is something I can agree with whenever we see the usual complaints about highsec.

I too would love to see all carebearing end in highsec. I would love to see everybody in highsec doing what Harry and company, these "wolves" I like to call them, going to nullsec. Highsec is the perfect jumpoff point.

And simply just doing it is the key. Everybody is so stuck in that box, the "you have to join an alliance or you won't make iSK" routine, most of the security of nullsec consists of just that. If even 5000 noobs or alts started going to nullsec and preying upon targets, nullsec would no longer be the stripmalled paved over corporate park that the neckbeards have drama'ed it into.

It would be a festering hellhole of PVP. And in that cauldron would emerge true tacticians, worst enemies and best friends. A lot of people blame highsec for everything that they say Eve lacks, but complaining to CCP for nerfs and boosts is pointless. They already gave everybody the tools they need. People just have to stop believing in these lies.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2013-08-06 20:02:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
maybe we did put too much story in the cynokills, but just because the stories in general are missing

the dull bigger better numbers competition is not really exciting, not sure why not many understand this here

by the way switched to kill industrials long ago... some live in the past far too long, get up to speed please

just yesterday a noctis was burning because of my torpedos, sure you got the reports on your intel channels Cool
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#59 - 2013-08-06 20:03:37 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:

- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in.
- the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)

if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless

Goons are not as all powerful as people think. Clearly the mittani's Last Mistake in Fountain showed our weakness.

That and you might be better served linking ratting carrier killmails off the VFK beacon, really.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#60 - 2013-08-06 20:08:40 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:

- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in.
- the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)

if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless

Goons are not as all powerful as people think. Clearly the mittani's Last Mistake in Fountain showed our weakness.

That and you might be better served linking ratting carrier killmails off the VFK beacon, really.



Do you seriously think that day will never come? How long has this been going on, a month or two?


Experience must be had, tactics must be developed. I have seen people take on project for which they didn't know how to even use the tools, and in the end, they were getting job offers by others who have seen their work.

Ships will be lost, shields will be... shaken... oops.... clones will be splatted. You get the idea.

In the end, what happens? People are playing a PVP game.

To be honest I still don't know how I got my stealth bomber back to a friendly hangar for a refit.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!