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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#61 - 2013-08-27 15:03:49 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Wait what?

Not everyone who claims to be a hacker is a hacker.


And not every hacker is a criminal.

Yes, they are. Hacking is a criminal offence.

Just because you stole a cup cake out of your mother's oven does not mean you are a thief. It means you did not actually steal anything, but it was placed there for you to take. You may only think you are a thief.

Same with hacking. Just because you reverse engineered a device does not mean you have hacked it. It might just mean you have analysed it or taken it apart without breaking any laws.


Look, I'm not getting dragged into this idiotic argument. That answer already told me everything I needed to know so anything you say at this point is just falling on deaf eyes. If you would like to have last post go ahead, I don't have any need to respond to anything else you say.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#62 - 2013-08-27 15:05:10 UTC
Show me the official definition of hacker lmao!!!
Whitehound
#63 - 2013-08-27 15:06:21 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Look, I'm not getting dragged into this idiotic argument.

It is really your choice and not mine at this point.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Whitehound
#64 - 2013-08-27 15:22:25 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Show me the official definition of hacker lmao!!!

Calm down. We are beyond the point of discussing what is criminal and what is not. The hacker who was found dead claimed to have hacked pacemakers and that he could use it to kill people, and that he hacked cash machines to get at people's money. These are obviously criminal motives.

I then do not care for who calls themselves a hacker, but is not one. For all I care can anyone call themselves whatever they want. I am only talking about hacking as being a criminal offence. I am well aware of the fact that some call it hacking when they are only typing on a keyboard, which is why I said that I am hacking cash machines, too, when I "hack in four numbers into a cash machine". Of course does "to hack" have many meanings in our language.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#65 - 2013-08-27 17:20:08 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
that he hacked cash machines to get at people's money.


He did no such thing.

"Jack experimented on two machines he bought online and shared his findings with the ATM manufacturers before he shared them with the world. Both manufacturers instituted fixes before Jack's presentation."

We have already met at an impasse, one man's evil is another man's good I guess. But the above proves that he did nothing illegitimate. If he had, I figure the manufacturers or the local prosecutor would have pressed charges, but they did not. But who am I to argue with Whitehound himself, the all knowing white knight of the world Roll

On a side note. I work primarily with senior citizens and I brought this up to many of them and guess what, they were not scared and they were actually interested in the topic and a couple that have pace makers were actually glad that someone found it out so it could possibly be corrected. I emphasized that there is no need to worry about someone cracking their pacemaker. Imagine that I used the proper term to call malicious hacking what it is... cracking.
Whitehound
#66 - 2013-08-27 17:54:12 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
that he hacked cash machines to get at people's money.


He did no such thing.

"Jack experimented on two machines he bought online and shared his findings with the ATM manufacturers before he shared them with the world. Both manufacturers instituted fixes before Jack's presentation."

We have already met at an impasse, one man's evil is another man's good I guess. But the above proves that he did nothing illegitimate. If he had, I figure the manufacturers or the local prosecutor would have pressed charges, but they did not. But who am I to argue with Whitehound himself, the all knowing white knight of the world Roll

On a side note. I work primarily with senior citizens and I brought this up to many of them and guess what, they were not scared and they were actually interested in the topic and a couple that have pace makers were actually glad that someone found it out so it could possibly be corrected. I emphasized that there is no need to worry about someone cracking their pacemaker. Imagine that I used the proper term to call malicious hacking what it is... cracking.

You started the thread with handing out tinfoil hats. I am only stating my opinion here, which has not changed. You have my respect for not scaring the elderly but reassuring them that you have no intentions of scaring them with the story on hacked pacemakers. Almost unbelievable, but it seems as if you have learned something from my comments.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#67 - 2013-08-27 18:13:15 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
that he hacked cash machines to get at people's money.


He did no such thing.

"Jack experimented on two machines he bought online and shared his findings with the ATM manufacturers before he shared them with the world. Both manufacturers instituted fixes before Jack's presentation."

We have already met at an impasse, one man's evil is another man's good I guess. But the above proves that he did nothing illegitimate. If he had, I figure the manufacturers or the local prosecutor would have pressed charges, but they did not. But who am I to argue with Whitehound himself, the all knowing white knight of the world Roll

On a side note. I work primarily with senior citizens and I brought this up to many of them and guess what, they were not scared and they were actually interested in the topic and a couple that have pace makers were actually glad that someone found it out so it could possibly be corrected. I emphasized that there is no need to worry about someone cracking their pacemaker. Imagine that I used the proper term to call malicious hacking what it is... cracking.

You started the thread with handing out tinfoil hats. I am only stating my opinion here, which has not changed. You have my respect for not scaring the elderly but reassuring them that you have no intentions of scaring them with the story on hacked pacemakers. Almost unbelievable, but it seems as if you have learned something from my comments.



Just FYI, your posting had nothing to do with my actions. I am a wellness educator. Everything I said above happened before this discussion started, actually the day it hit the news to be exact. Do not hold yourself in such high regards, you have taught me nothing in this thread.
Whitehound
#68 - 2013-08-27 18:31:00 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Just FYI, your posting had nothing to do with my actions. I am a wellness educator. Everything I said above happened before this discussion started, actually the day it hit the news to be exact. Do not hold yourself in such high regards, you have taught me nothing in this thread.

I said it seemed as if you have learned something from my comments. I did not say that you did.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Torrema Sinclair
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-08-28 17:40:57 UTC
Dont **** with the Medical industryWhat?