EVE General Discussion

I know that the leached stats from the test server are still in an early iteration.
I know that there is a high probability that further balancing will occur.

I just want to flag the following:

1) There is a general consensus that small blasters are already balanced reasonably well, as frigates generally already have the mobility to apply damage at short range. For examples, the following frigates fit with blasters are not seen as underpowered in their bracket:

- Blaster fit Incursus and Tristan are fine compared to other T1 frigates
- Blaster fit Taranis is a very popular brawling interceptor
- Blaster fit Daredevil is not underpowered compared to other faction frigs (except Dram, which will be nerfed)
- Blaster fit Ishkur is already one of the best Assault frigates

So I think we can all agree on this.

2) The combined effect of

- Less Powergrid (Neutron only) and CPU (Ion, Electron and Neutron) requirements for small blasters
- Micro Auxiliary Power II giving +12 PG instead of the normal +10 (same as Navy MPAC but 18CPU not 19CPU)

This gives many gallente frigates, especially the ones that would normally fit a Micro Auxiliary Power Core, options for more DPS or tank than they had before via the spare Power Grid and CPU introduced through these changes.

3) Small (Neutron, Ion and Election) blasters draw less capacitor.

4) Small (Neutron, Ion and Electron) blasters are also getting a tracking boost.

5) Many gallente frigates (i.e. Tristan, Incursus) are also getting a 10m/s maximum velocity boost. Note that they also get an agility nerf which will somewhat compensate.

I think these changes will unbalance the frigate class in favour of gallente/blasters.

NOTE: PLEASE keep this discussion limited to frigates and small blasters.

higher agility = better

quicker turning, start/stopping

They get an increased inertia modifier, which leads to lower agility. The problem is that the data dump that is floating around is calling this attribute “agility”, which is rather contrary to what it actually does (even though it is, indeed, a large part of the agility calculation).

It's a clash of terminology, if you like. The game doesn't really have any concept of agility — just Mass × InertiaMod — and we as players have come to call the latter agility because… well… it's part of the formula for what we think of as agility, and mass is already mass. The problem with calling one thing something more familiar like this is that the thing in question does the opposite of what our chosen synonym usually conveys.

I dont think it will be as big of an issue as you think, The ishkur isnt that fast and we havent seen what they are doing to assault ships yet.

the ranis is nice but its slower then some of the other cepters, so again not a big issue there.


Meh, i would wait and see i think it wont be as over powered as you think

Even if this leads to Gallante ships being the FoTM for a bit, I am relaxed about this. They've been in the wilderness for 4 years; let them warm their toes at the fire a while.

So its a nerf to turning and acceleration!? Thanks for the clarification tippa but this is bs tbh.
I would rather see it the other way around. Increase acceleration and leave speed a it is. In many (or most) cases gallente blasterships wont even get near max-speed as it pulses the MWD once or maybe twice to get within range.

The problem is: there is no “agility” stat. Look at the same ships in the item database, and you'll notice those exact same “agility” numbers listed under the heading Inertia Modifier.

“Agility” is just something we players (not quite incorrectly, but counter-intuitively) call it because “inertia modifier” is such a clumsy and nondescript term.

Tippia doesn't really need to produce any evidence, since the agility numbers are exactly the same as the current inertia modifier numbers. It only makes sense to assume the agility attribute is just the inertia modifier under a different label.

Bolded the bit people need to realise.

I'm really looking forward to flying an Enyo that doesn't automatically lose to a wolf.