Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What rank skill will it be and what are the prequesites? I'm mainly concerned with it being newbie friendly, since it seems like a skill anyone not married to a specifc type of activity would have occasional use for and there really isn't a reason why it should be behind a high training barrier.



If that is all, why not just drop the cooldown to around 20 hours and be done with it? What is the design goal, that made you retain the problematic system intact and just allow us to sacrifice time to get character specific fixes to it?

In my view if it's deemed as a problem then just fix the problem. This kind of common sense mechanical change shouldn't be something you make players sweat for, so to speak. It's like you notice a design problem, but instead of fixing it, you leave the initial problem in the game and offer us an option to achieve the fix by stop training gameplay enhancing skills for a few days. It doesn't exactly scream great game design. More like the gamemechanics are made to be unnecessarily painful, but you have the option to achieve the fix if you just pause your character progression for a few days. Yay?! I guess it's better then nothing, but I still dislike the approach you've chosen.


Nice to see you're going to think about the system properly at some point. If you're taking in feedback on a future project, I'd like to see you clearly type out the goals you have for the system and why you think the limitations need to be there. Without that any system you go with will seem somewhat arbitrary(like why 24h of cooldown instead of 20h). If you provide those details, it'll make giving constructive feedback much easier, since we have a solid base to ground that feedback on.

I like this change, +1

And to everyone saying it should be longer. Just make another skill, make it something like 10x-15x train time and have it require Informorph Synchronizing level 5 and call it Advanced Informorph Synchronizing which will again give 1 hour reduction per level.

This would make the training time take so long that only the most dedicated of pvp/fleet people would get it to the point where they have a 14 hour timer on their clones.

That aside, I still don't like reducing it that far. I understand most players use it to get into cheap clones but it also has the side effect of putting you anywhere in KS in an instant and there really isn't a reason to allow that twice a day (ie the 12 hours everyone wants).

What in the ****?

Why is this a skill? Why are you making people invest SP in order to receive QOL fixes? This is the most bizarre change I've read, so much so when somone mentioned it to me I thought it was a parody. This is like making someone train to get UI fixes, or any other QOL change. "Just train graphical anomalies to IV and you should find less flickering! Oh your corp window keeps freezing? Train HUD stability to V!"

I don't think you've really understood why people are asking for the change, since it makes exactly zero sense to be a skill.

Just chop an average play-time from 24 hours and be done with it - a flat 20 hours will be what everyone goes for, so why you want people to take 1-3days to train this is just frankly bizarre.

12hrs is too big of a reduction as there is a concern of power projection (main reason of 24hr cooldown).

This. 2hrs reduction per level while making it more difficult to train (say, "rank" 5 or 6 and some unpopular attributes) would make it much more useful for those who need it but still balanced.

Why not solve this the way most other MMOs solve the "24 hours plus a bit" problem? Change the cooldown to 23 hours. Problem solved; people will always be able to jump on the next day at their "usual" play time.

Why add yet another skill (to "fix" something that even you recognize as a design flaw)? Does Eve really need more time / ISK sinks?

Also, while you're at it, implement the idea from the big suggestion thread about swapping clones whenever you want as long as you're at the relevant station. It won't affect instant travel and will make people more likely to actually play, instead of going "Oh, I have the wrong implants to [mine/PvP/whatever], I guess I'll go play something else and come back tomorrow..."

This change is as irrelevant to the problem as a fart in the desert.

Howsabout Advanced Infomorph Psychology, allowing 1 additional JC per skill level? Huh? Huh? Huh?

Make 20 hours baseline, skill reduces by 1 hour per level. Most games with a daily cooldown have them set to 20 hours to allow breathing room to ensure you're not slowly pushing back the reset time every day. Having 20 hours baseline and a skill to reduce the time seems like it would work out much better.

+1

This would be an even better alternative for those that play for longer stretches on weekends (for example). And would remove the absolute requirement to train it to V for the casual players who play for 3 hours or less.