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We have to pay through Nexon from next April. Question from a "Japan based player"

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cotton feel
kenkyu unso monodukuri anahori
#61 - 2011-10-27 22:42:34 UTC
Ogopogo Mu wrote:
I'd be more concerned with Nexon's track record in account security.



NEXON is the company which has established reputation in account hacking in Japan.
In a Japanese player, many people of a negative idea exist in the charge collection in NEXON.
Probably, many people who resign EVE also exist.
A community of Japan will receive serious damage.
HELIC0N ONE
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2011-10-27 23:06:21 UTC
cotton feel wrote:
Ogopogo Mu wrote:
I'd be more concerned with Nexon's track record in account security.


NEXON is the company which has established reputation in account hacking in Japan.


oh my
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2011-10-27 23:40:56 UTC
Sympathies from Brazilian players. We are forced to use Levelupgames to buy and pay for some of our MMOs and they seem as terrible as NEXON.

Please don't do that to us, CCP!

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kuroapu
Nejitu Company
Caladrius Alliance
#64 - 2011-10-28 01:26:22 UTC
Companies entering the middle that is not trusted, you can call a friend inhibit
I will continue to rethink myself
Same game companies would Datte EVE?
Proper to say that if price is no problem in that sorry

web can be read only in translation
Dattara cryptic, sorry
Myxx
The Scope
#65 - 2011-10-28 03:14:48 UTC
bump. this seems to have been ANOTHER poor idea, CCP.
bavaa
AO no ME
#66 - 2011-10-28 04:58:16 UTC
bump
Jujunun Maulerant
Maulerant Brokerage Firm
#67 - 2011-10-28 05:04:28 UTC
Japanese people do not contract with an insincere company likea NEXON.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#68 - 2011-10-28 05:20:48 UTC
All these Japanese players and the way they put their English sentences together... it's bringing back memories of those days I worked for a Japanese transportation company and all those great coworkers that I still miss.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#69 - 2011-10-28 05:33:58 UTC
If you are paying 1500¥ to play Eve, you are being ripped-off.
Sorry to see CCP adopting an obviously unwanted and untrusted mehtod and company for account payment for the players in Japan.

I am now more informed on the subject, I did the maths and wow, what a bloody ripoff! No wonder the players in Japan are complaining.

CCP (Read - Hilmar) - Greed is not good, you know this.

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Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2011-10-28 05:34:21 UTC
Although the ￥3,000 number I mentioned does have some kind of back up and is not just something random that I made up, since CCP Navigator has stated that the actual price will be substantially lower, let's not stick with the ￥3,000 thing too much :)

Well, something like ￥2,000 may appear substantially lower but in fact it is still twice as much as what I am currently paying (under ￥900 per month with 6 month subscription). I do hope it is really substantially lower...

Hirana Yoshida wrote:

For Yen the alt code is 0165, so holding ALT while typing 0165 gives you: ¥ ... Tada!

Wow, for some reason I'm not familiar with, ALT + 0165 didn't work for me (it just shows a "･") and I managed to find out that I have to type ALT + 33167 to make my "￥" pop up (I'm not sure if it will show up on non-Japanese environments though). Thanks for the alt code info :)
Ossan Z
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2011-10-28 06:17:16 UTC
I am a Japanese player and keeping three accounts in 399 USD (133 USD * 3) per year.
If monthly subscription rise to 3000yen, I have to pay 108000 yen (1400 USD) per year Shocked
Serious problem for me.
Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#72 - 2011-10-28 06:51:20 UTC
*BUMP

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#73 - 2011-10-28 08:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
But how will they to stop you from making a new account via the eve.is website putting in your visa card information and launching the client? (or paying through paypall for that matter, so they don't even know what kind of visa or card you have)

They can't block you based on your IP, because I could be visiting japan with my laptop or working there and be blocked for "not having nexon points"

So I would assume only if you play with the "localised client" they are building will actually stop you from playing eve like you did before.

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Imawuss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-10-28 08:41:51 UTC
So your mad about a price that you dont even know exactly how much it is?

Since the yen is trading at about 74 to $1 right now if they charge 1500 yen per month i have an idea for you. Buy plex for $15 here then resell it for 1300 Yen there, they pay less and you make about 15% profit, not bad at all. That gig should be good for about 2 years until the dollar gains some strength against the Yen.

Dont get mad, make money, its what you would do in EVE.
mkint
#75 - 2011-10-28 08:50:47 UTC
Imawuss wrote:
So your mad about a price that you dont even know exactly how much it is?

Since the yen is trading at about 74 to $1 right now if they charge 1500 yen per month i have an idea for you. Buy plex for $15 here then resell it for 1300 Yen there, they pay less and you make about 15% profit, not bad at all. That gig should be good for about 2 years until the dollar gains some strength against the Yen.

Dont get mad, make money, its what you would do in EVE.

a) read the thread. People don't trust nexon. They consider them thieves at worst, and risky as hell at best.
b) plex is $19 for just the plex. I think that 30% failure of yours will chew up that 15% profit.
c) even if it wasn't incredibly stupid to buy something for 19 bucks and sell it for 17 and expect a profit, selling plex for currency is illegal and can get you permabanned.
d) some people just shouldn't talk in public.

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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#76 - 2011-10-28 09:04:51 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
...They can't block you based on your IP, because I could be visiting japan with my laptop or working there and be blocked for "not having nexon points"...

You need to read the links that accompany these kinds of threads
Nexon/CCP eMail wrote:
Please note, however, that all players will need to establish an additional Nexon ID which will be used exclusively for billing and billing support. In short, the only change to existing account and login procedure is that after April 1, 2012 an additional login step will be added for players to access Nexon’s convenient and secure payment system. The change above will apply to all players residing in Japan regardless of nationality.

They are selling our Japanese brothers up the Han (Korean river .. get it? .. me so clever).
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#77 - 2011-10-28 09:18:40 UTC
What I would like to know is why CCP are going with this, because as far as I am aware people outside Europe and America has been able to access the account management page since day 1 so it makes little sense for players in Japan to go through a 3rd party when there hasn't been any issues with it before so why now?

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#78 - 2011-10-28 09:32:13 UTC
I cannot believe that I have to witness yet another of CCP's face palming moments.
What is it with you guys? Greed made you stupid? Shocked
At least give them the possibility of a choice, not to use this company.


CCP: Welcome to the Dark Zone.

Customer 1: The Dark Zone?
Customer 2: We're in the Dark Zone?
Customer 1: So, what are we supposed to do now?
CCP: Perhaps you should find yourselves another MMO.
Customer 2: B-but, the Dark Zone is full of WoW-clones, and, and, and, and no important internet spaceships and, and, darkness, and
CCP (interrupting): Our ancestors came from the Dark Zone! We where taught that altho there are not many good MMO's, there are some. Perhaps you should find one.
Customer 1: You mean, we should find one. We're together in this.

CCP: We are dead. We have no future.



Oh yeah, bump too for our fellow Japanese players. :s
Tommy Laughingface
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2011-10-28 10:05:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tommy Laughingface
Alpheias wrote:
What I would like to know is why CCP are going with this, because as far as I am aware people outside Europe and America has been able to access the account management page since day 1 so it makes little sense for players in Japan to go through a 3rd party when there hasn't been any issues with it before so why now?


CCP wanted more Japanese players. Nexon talked them into it. Nexon want their cut, and they want to make sure we all go through Nexon so they profit from the "service" they do for CCP with 100% certainty. CCP is playin the dumb here.

Nexon got their hand in CCP's pocket, now they want their dirty hand in our pockets as well through the use of CCP infected.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2011-10-28 10:09:03 UTC
Texty wrote:
Although the ￥3,000 number I mentioned does have some kind of back up and is not just something random that I made up, since CCP Navigator has stated that the actual price will be substantially lower, let's not stick with the ￥3,000 thing too much :)

Well, something like ￥2,000 may appear substantially lower but in fact it is still twice as much as what I am currently paying (under ￥900 per month with 6 month subscription). I do hope it is really substantially lower...

let's say thiis will be 500000￥ a month!

anyway we are free to speak anything Lol

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