EVE General Discussion

It would be awesome, but I assure you, they're not in Low.

I must say I have agree to some extent
It's very very difficult now to find a faction spawn never mind an officer.
And yeah I have spent hours going through belts also.
I understand they shouldn't be just everywhere but they don't seem to be anywhere.
I used to spend a lot of time in stain where true sansha spawns where around now I don't see many at all

So what did you really do CCP through them all in plexes?

I think I found two in 5 years. But then I never looked for them.

I had two Domination spawns in belts just yesterday, roughly about 2 hours apart. Both dropped faction ammo and a dog tag. Yay, because I collect dog tags and they will go nicely in my collection

I saw draclira last week but it warped off before I killed it. Checked belts it was nowhere to be found.

Found 1 faction spawn in an anomaly in 2 weeks so yea they are pretty rare.

I have never seen an officer on my own, although I do buy theier drops in the northern regions from time to time, and allies have killed several in the last year. as for faction spawns, everyone i know who used to rat in venal and such for faction spawns stopped doing it after the 'fix' because they could hardly find a single faction rat anymore. i've only encountered one since the 'fix' myself if i recall correctly.

I am been reading this for awhile and noticed the change just as everyone else..

Here is my oberservation on what they changed.

1. Officers no longer spawn after downtime PERIOD... (we knew this aka - patch notes)

2. Officers are have been removed from NPC space, venal - curse ( delve + fountain unchecked)
This is the same bug that affects the spawns int he COSMO's area's, broken.
If there are officers in these regions, the trigger is the # of NPC kills / security of the system + activity last 24 hours.
So in NPC Venal/Curse the # of ratters is low enough not to trigger an event to spawn them. Belt Rat/Mission rats are not the same and therefor Mission rats dont effect the belts.

3. the OP was right in his earlier post, just flying into each belt had a 10-20 % chance in spawning a commander/officer since the spawns were reset at downtime, the odds were good to make good isk just looking for them BEFORE the nerf.

4. Only 45% of the belts in each solar system spawn rats that total no more then 6M in achievable bounties.

5. DED Plex's Major nerf if your looking to bank good isk not worth running, The drop rate of overseer effects to any loot is 80/20. My though would be to run 10/10 with friends as its quicker and if theres nothing going on, time better spent elsewhere

The difficulty finding them has tripled, with the scanning system everyone can find them easier so CCP had to make them harder to find thats simple. So the typical systems that are scanned each day have less and less of a chance of a new SIGNATURE. Systems that have not been scanned or have had signatures have higher chance of signatures/DED plex's

6. RELIC/HACKING sites... It used to be profitable to run relic or magnetometic sites cause you could get anywhere from 25 to 300 mil per site of t2 salvage. With the new system after hacking a can you get 30 sec to gather as many cans as you can before they disappear. Each can takes about 5 sec to go into your cargo, therefor you get about 6 cans total before you have to move on to the next can. Total isk value now less then 50mil per site.. Now hacking sites are a joke, they take up tons of cargo room in covert ops ships getting parts, and 90% of the time your reward is less the 10mil per site.

So why would CCP nerf so much related to exploration and commander spawns? answer: PLEX
if you can make 400/500 mil a day you can afford to plex your account for the next month, this lowers paid subscription revenue and therefor needed to be nerf'd.

I am sure CCP has market alts keeping the PLEX market value about 500-550M per 30 days.

So instead of spending a few hours a week to PLEX your account, you have to grind,. Lets say you had a real good system where you could make 20M per 20 Minutes in ticks doing anoms .. It would take you 1 hour to make 60Mil, or 10 Hours to make 600 Mil. If you could run a 10/10 plex and it dropped 1.2bil loot and you spend 2 hours, your isk per hour was good, so this was nerf'd.

I may be totally wrong, but since the patch this has been my observation........ So that being said let the trolls begin, unless CCP wants to confirm a bug or 2, or just plain say random is random, but you never get that random chance since we have set the bar so high.

-BC

Same here,

I have had Faction and hauler spawns, but they are 1/30th what they used to be, Might get that type of spawn once a month maybe, and its value is way way less.

One thought I had was since they rats spawn only in about 1/4-2/3 of the belts in system, this gives miners more of a chance to watch football and mine with less worry about rats spawning maybe

I am sure I will think of more later.

-BC