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[LENDS] Bond Offering $250m @ 8.5%
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Countesss
Doomheim
#21 - 2011-10-27 14:49:23 UTC
Here's another tip.

Don't blatantly try and raise money for the sole purpose of rep grinding. if you want to get rep, earn it. Start your business and start small with what you've got.

A lending corp doesn't need billions to start, a few mill is more then enough to get started. Trust is earned, not bought.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-10-27 14:53:14 UTC
Personal Banker wrote:
it seems to me like you have been scammed more then once hence the negative comments coming from you


I've never been scammed. Nice deflection attempt though.

No one has gotten a penny from someone who wasn't their own alt in months, and that includes scams that were far better prepared and presented than yours. These scams are finally and thankfully dead. Save yourself a lot of trouble and just biomass your char right now.
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#23 - 2011-10-27 14:54:41 UTC
Countesss wrote:
Here's another tip.

Don't blatantly try and raise money for the sole purpose of rep grinding. if you want to get rep, earn it. Start your business and start small with what you've got.

A lending corp doesn't need billions to start, a few mill is more then enough to get started. Trust is earned, not bought.


No offense but I can't imagine any person that would only need a few million isk in loans other then new players who wont have any collateral to back it up. I initially gave this corp 400m isk to start the lending process but soon found out that I did not have enough to lend out, which lead me to stop lending.

-Chris
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#24 - 2011-10-27 14:57:10 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Personal Banker wrote:
it seems to me like you have been scammed more then once hence the negative comments coming from you


I've never been scammed. Nice deflection attempt though.

No one has gotten a penny from someone who wasn't their own alt in months, and that includes scams that were far better prepared and presented than yours. These scams are finally and thankfully dead. Save yourself a lot of trouble and just biomass your char right now.



LOL! For someone who hasn't been involved in a scam you sure are very hostile and eager to call out a scam without giving it a chance.

Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-10-27 14:58:55 UTC
I'm just embarrassed for retards like yourself who are a year behind the times. I post because I care.
RAW23
#26 - 2011-10-27 15:05:11 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:

No one has gotten a penny from someone who wasn't their own alt in months, and that includes scams that were far better prepared and presented than yours.


Stop making **** up. This isn't one of your market manipulation attempts, you know?

Hmmm ... or is it? Social market manipulation? Trust as a commodity, perhaps. Did you buy up large stocks a few months ago?

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Countesss
Doomheim
#27 - 2011-10-27 15:08:55 UTC
Personal Banker wrote:
Countesss wrote:
Here's another tip.

Don't blatantly try and raise money for the sole purpose of rep grinding. if you want to get rep, earn it. Start your business and start small with what you've got.

A lending corp doesn't need billions to start, a few mill is more then enough to get started. Trust is earned, not bought.


No offense but I can't imagine any person that would only need a few million isk in loans other then new players who wont have any collateral to back it up. I initially gave this corp 400m isk to start the lending process but soon found out that I did not have enough to lend out, which lead me to stop lending.

-Chris


No offense taken. But you clearly have 400m, so you don't need to borrow 250m.

The point is there are plenty of loans you can fill for under 400m, with collateral I'm sure. Progress would be slow and you'd be fairly limited in the amount of loans you could give. BUT you'd actually earn your trust and not try and buy it. If you look back the last 10 pages there have been a few loan requests for under 400m with collateral. I'm sure there are plenty more seeking loans who just haven't posted their own threads either.

Another free tip is keep your cool when replying to questions. You wont earn any confidence from investors by reacting towards trolls or difficult questions.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-10-27 15:11:29 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Stop making **** up.


Uh oh, the King of The Honerable Spaceship Business Wiseman Council is here to defend his fetid and corrupt institution.

RAW loves it when noobs get scammed because it makes his refusal to scam shine all the brighter. He's like spacejesus basically, except he encourages "bad" to make himself look that much more "good".

So much blood and ink spilt over one man's spaceships ego...
flakeys
Doomheim
#29 - 2011-10-27 15:12:54 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Elise DarkStar wrote:

No one has gotten a penny from someone who wasn't their own alt in months, and that includes scams that were far better prepared and presented than yours.


Stop making **** up. This isn't one of your market manipulation attempts, you know?

Hmmm ... or is it? Social market manipulation? Trust as a commodity, perhaps. Did you buy up large stocks a few months ago?



I filed a petition to CCP as to why i can only see 6 characters in total on my 2 accounts while clearly it should be a load more as mentioned above.

I'll post here once i get a reply.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-10-27 15:18:37 UTC
oh my god you actually said "this is just to build up trust"

hahaha
RAW23
#31 - 2011-10-27 15:25:25 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
RAW23 wrote:
Stop making **** up.


Uh oh, the King of The Honerable Spaceship Business Wiseman Council is here to defend his fetid and corrupt institution.

RAW loves it when noobs get scammed because it makes his refusal to scam shine all the brighter. He's like spacejesus basically, except he encourages "bad" to make himself look that much more "good".

So much blood and ink spilt over one man's spaceships ego...


That's going in my bio!

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#32 - 2011-10-27 16:38:16 UTC
So my thinking is it would be best for me to not go this route, and wait till i start lending operations with this corp and start making a name for myself that way. I didn't expect this much fiasco.

I want to thank all of you who gave me some ideas and tips regarding this subject, and I want to apologize for being snippy or rude to Elise, its just frustrating when you get called a scammer when your not. But your criticism is appreciated because without people like you scammers would run wild.

Hope you talk to you guys soon and give you guys an established lending corp with a solid customer base. Fly Safe!!!!

-Chris
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2011-10-27 16:41:50 UTC
Scammer down!

/me moonwalks across thread with annoyingly smug look
Countesss
Doomheim
#34 - 2011-10-27 16:47:41 UTC
Glad to see you're taking that new path.
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#35 - 2011-10-27 16:55:52 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Scammer down!

/me moonwalks across thread with annoyingly smug look




Hmmm can't wait to see what you have to say when I prove you wrong? Then I think I will be doing Carlton's dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKlxjbhB9HE
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#36 - 2011-10-27 16:57:18 UTC
Countesss wrote:
Glad to see you're taking that new path.



Thank you Countesss, after I get my freighter and make some isk I will start this corp up faster then I want to just to prove Elise wrong and the rest of the nay sayers...
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2011-10-27 17:05:17 UTC
Personal Banker wrote:
Thank you Countesss, after I get my freighter and make some isk I will start this corp up faster then I want to just to prove Elise wrong and the rest of the nay sayers...


The standard line of the defeated scammer.

Just stop posting; you're done.

Let this be a lesson to all you other "honourable spaceship businessmen". The age of investment scams is over, it has been for months now. There is nothing left here but a few sad people clinging to some deluded sliver of relevance in a world that has long since passed them by.

Let's all move forward together into a bright new future of a market discussions forum dedicated to market discussions, and let us banish forever behind us this dark and corrupt past of investment scams.
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#38 - 2011-10-27 17:14:22 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Personal Banker wrote:
Thank you Countesss, after I get my freighter and make some isk I will start this corp up faster then I want to just to prove Elise wrong and the rest of the nay sayers...


The standard line of the defeated scammer.

Just stop posting; you're done.

Let this be a lesson to all you other "honourable spaceship businessmen". The age of investment scams is over, it has been for months now. There is nothing left here but a few sad people clinging to some deluded sliver of relevance in a world that has long since passed them by.

Let's all move forward together into a bright new future of a market discussions forum dedicated to market discussions, and let us banish forever behind us this dark and corrupt past of investment scams.





No point in beating a dead horse....
RAW23
#39 - 2011-10-27 18:02:43 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Personal Banker wrote:
Thank you Countesss, after I get my freighter and make some isk I will start this corp up faster then I want to just to prove Elise wrong and the rest of the nay sayers...


The standard line of the defeated scammer.

Just stop posting; you're done.

Let this be a lesson to all you other "honourable spaceship businessmen". The age of investment scams is over, it has been for months now. There is nothing left here but a few sad people clinging to some deluded sliver of relevance in a world that has long since passed them by.

Let's all move forward together into a bright new future of a market discussions forum dedicated to market discussions, and let us banish forever behind us this dark and corrupt past of investment scams.





Amen brother! Now the legitimate investments will be able to roam free without fear of having their good names tarnished. Your goal has been achieved! You can hang up your shield and mount your sword above the fire-place, satisfied that should you glance up as you sip your brandy and smoke your cigar you will feel only satisfaction as your gaze rests on the instruments of your victory.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2011-10-27 18:13:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Elise DarkStar
RAW23 wrote:
Now the legitimate investments will be able to roam free without fear of having their good names tarnished.


If only there were such a thing. Alas this is not the the truth of the dark world in which we live. All investments are tied together in this viper's nest of lies, shadows, and deception. The worst of all are those who feast off of the misery and suffering of the scammed by pretending to represent the forces of honesty and good, while simultaneously encouraging that which they so decry.

Only when we are free of them all, will we be able to move forward together.