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[LENDS] Bond Offering $250m @ 8.5%

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Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#1 - 2011-10-27 01:26:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Personal Banker
Hello everyone! The man reason I am doing this is not for the isk, but is to start building a good rapport with the eve community or to as many of you as I can. This is an alt, my main character is a miner and trader, he is also 16 days away from the Providence! So i will be funding the interest expenses through my main character. Like i stated before there is no need for the money other then building up my corps "credit rating". I figure when I do start to use this character to start lending (which is my intention) and I need capital hopefully I will have gained some sort of good standing with those of you who decided to take place in this bond offering. Therefore have the ability to raise the capital that i may need.


The amount: $250m
The interest: 8.5% per month
Pay Dates: 15th and 30th of the month
Term: 60 days
Max investment: $25m per player/corporation
Total number of investors: 10

The reason I want only a person or corporation to invest $25m is to a group of investors not just one or two, hence building up my standing within the investing community.

This is my first time doing one of these but I think i explained it pretty well, if any of you have questions feel free to ask. My goal again is just to build a good name for this corp.

The closing date I am aiming for is the end of the month October 31.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-10-27 01:45:22 UTC
repgrind scamming is dead, bro

you must have missed the memo

kill yourself (ingame)
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#3 - 2011-10-27 01:58:14 UTC
Dude scam for $250m why waste the time? I have lost $300m in harbys alone in the past three weeks, and am going to buy a $750m ship in two 1/2 weeks.. As clearly stated doing this to build a good name in eve nothing else, I am willing to even change the loan to $100m if that would make it easier or more trustworthy
Countesss
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-27 03:58:36 UTC
He's Implying you're grinding rep solely to scam a larger amount in the future.

If you want isk from people here, the first step to take would be full disclosure. So your main character info, why should we trust you? meh I'm too lazy to finish this.

Just take a look at this, this will get going in the right direction:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=390323


Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#5 - 2011-10-27 04:15:14 UTC
in...afterlolwutascam?

Interested Party (TM)

Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#6 - 2011-10-27 04:57:06 UTC
Countesss wrote:
He's Implying you're grinding rep solely to scam a larger amount in the future.

If you want isk from people here, the first step to take would be full disclosure. So your main character info, why should we trust you? meh I'm too lazy to finish this.

Just take a look at this, this will get going in the right direction:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=390323





Ah thanks for clarifying that!! I cant disclose my trader due to the fact that corps might war dec for the hell of it and seeing how that would hinder my ability to make isk, I can say that I am a director and in partnership with my CEO we grew the company from 14 members to 60 and no revenue to over 1b. My main alt is around 4.5 months old, yes I have only been playing that long.

Trust is a thing that has to be earned ofc, and thats pretty much the only way, even if i gave you my main and it full api key it still would be very easy to be untrustworthy. And again I am only asking for $250m with a max of $25m per person.

I am trying to do something a little different in the eve game and not scam people!!!! I wouldn't be using this corp for at least several months out seeing how a lending corp would need billions I have no where near the funds to start that and I would not use 100% debt financing to ever start a company just plain dumb (Finance Major)...

I hope that can clarify and help my offering....


egola
NSFW federation
#7 - 2011-10-27 06:48:49 UTC
so no disclosure, carry on.
Kostolany
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-10-27 06:50:53 UTC
All guys are crying "scam, scam, scam" here... it's boring and better to shut up in this case. Everyone must have a chance to build up rep.

What's wrong with it? Mate, i will invest this 25m - a bit less for me, but i want to see only the good site of people... i am positive in opposite to these guys here in MD.

Send me an mail and we will make the deal. It's possible to get more investors because of my blog....
Best regards

Kostolany

No fear, pain is only temporary.

egola
NSFW federation
#9 - 2011-10-27 06:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: egola
Kostolany wrote:
All guys are crying "scam, scam, scam" here... it's boring and better to shut up in this case. Everyone must have a chance to build up rep.

What's wrong with it? Mate, i will invest this 25m - a bit less for me, but i want to see only the good site of people... i am positive in opposite to these guys here in MD.

Send me an mail and we will make the deal. It's possible to get more investors because of my blog....
Best regards

Kostolany


your show of faith is astounding and inspiring
Kostolany
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-10-27 07:02:20 UTC
egola wrote:
Kostolany wrote:
All guys are crying "scam, scam, scam" here... it's boring and better to shut up in this case. Everyone must have a chance to build up rep.

What's wrong with it? Mate, i will invest this 25m - a bit less for me, but i want to see only the good site of people... i am positive in opposite to these guys here in MD.

Send me an mail and we will make the deal. It's possible to get more investors because of my blog....
Best regards

Kostolany


your show of faith is astounding and inspiring


thx mate. I have good experience with it.

No fear, pain is only temporary.

egola
NSFW federation
#11 - 2011-10-27 07:08:04 UTC
people have constantly said chivalry is dead, but i prefer to say that sarcasm truly is dead.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-10-27 13:23:32 UTC
Kostolany wrote:
Everyone must have a chance to build up rep.


No, they don't.


Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#13 - 2011-10-27 13:35:38 UTC
What you (the OP) is trying to do here, whether you realise it or not, is buy rep/trust. That's not how it works. You could just as easily do the same with a 1 minute bond.


If you want a rep for being trustworthy then put together a real plan for something that can work, gather the investors and then do it. Report it, repeat it and grow. Take a trip down memory lane and go eve-search Kethas Protagonist. He started out completely wrong and now is able to pull in 30b.


As for not wanting to reveal who you do your trading with, that's complete bull. I did it with the char I used to do stuff, Kethas does, Tekota did the list goes on. Generally people won't bother war dec'ing you unless you give them a reason to (ala Caliph - who now appears to have scammed).

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Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#14 - 2011-10-27 14:03:07 UTC
Kostolany wrote:
All guys are crying "scam, scam, scam" here... it's boring and better to shut up in this case. Everyone must have a chance to build up rep.

What's wrong with it? Mate, i will invest this 25m - a bit less for me, but i want to see only the good site of people... i am positive in opposite to these guys here in MD.

Send me an mail and we will make the deal. It's possible to get more investors because of my blog....
Best regards

Kostolany


In before Elise's obvious shill alt is obvious meme.

But, you are high-risk. I'd take the whole bond @ 9%.
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#15 - 2011-10-27 14:27:37 UTC
Well I would like to thank all of you for your comments, I am going to up the interest to 8.5% seeing how i am a high risk to everyone. But i would like to say this, yes there are a lot of jackasses out there who make it hard for people who really want to do good in eve. How can anyone build trust if no one is willing to give it? Lets all take a step back and remember when we first started out didnt someone have to give you a chance to earn trust? Take you under their wing and show you how to be an effective player? I was given that chance by being made a director two weeks into my eve life and now have access to over 1.5b liquid assets through the very corp I started out at and consider it like a child.

And I have no need right now to start a lending corp up as I am working on my freighter skills and trading routes, so me creating a plan and asking for billions doesnt make sense to me as i have no need or want to start that right now.

I am willing to have someone join my corp and be made a jr accountant or auditor if it helps, other then giving out my social security number, date of birth, address, and first and last name I am really unsure what else it is do to other then asking you guys to give me a chance.

And I dont want one person giving me the isk even for 2%, the whole point is to have multiple people lend me isk so that when i do pay them back, the comments on this tread will reflect more then one person saying he is trustworthy.

So lets stop saying this is a scam scam scam and really give a guy a chance to prove it...

-Chris
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#16 - 2011-10-27 14:28:06 UTC
Kostolany wrote:
All guys are crying "scam, scam, scam" here... it's boring and better to shut up in this case. Everyone must have a chance to build up rep.

What's wrong with it? Mate, i will invest this 25m - a bit less for me, but i want to see only the good site of people... i am positive in opposite to these guys here in MD.

Send me an mail and we will make the deal. It's possible to get more investors because of my blog....
Best regards

Kostolany


Thanks bud email sent!
flakeys
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-10-27 14:33:05 UTC
Personal Banker wrote:


And I have no need right now to start a lending corp up as I am working on my freighter skills and trading routes, so me creating a plan and asking for billions doesnt make sense to me as i have no need or want to start that right now.




Then what IS the purpose of this loan if you are not looking for raising the loan amount in a short time AND have no need for the 250M.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#18 - 2011-10-27 14:41:51 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Personal Banker wrote:


And I have no need right now to start a lending corp up as I am working on my freighter skills and trading routes, so me creating a plan and asking for billions doesnt make sense to me as i have no need or want to start that right now.




Then what IS the purpose of this loan if you are not looking for raising the loan amount in a short time AND have no need for the 250M.


The purpose of the loan is to put my name out there and have a rep of paying people back with interest. My future plan for this corp is to lend out collateralize loans on ships. When I do decide to start operations it will take a huge influx of personal cash and investors money. Hence the building up my corps name and rep in the eve community rather then just asking for billions with no history of payment.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-10-27 14:43:20 UTC
Hey, guys. Let's engage this seriously, thereby lending it the veneer of it being an "issue" or "debate" instead of the same steaming pile of horseshit repgrinding scam that we've seen literally 1000 times in the last 2 years.

Hey, maybe some poor slob will actually get scammed in the end, then the OP can go brag to all his friends and we'll have 12 terrible copycats that people can similarly engage.

Learn a lesson here. 99% of these are scams, and the last 1% are people showing how "good" they are by not scamming. These serve no purpose beyond scamming or jerking yourself off that you're not a scammer.

There are around 10 interesting threads up about actual market issues. Go read and post in them.
Personal Banker
Universal Eve Lending Corp
#20 - 2011-10-27 14:46:52 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Hey, guys. Let's engage this seriously, thereby lending it the veneer of it being an "issue" or "debate" instead of the same steaming pile of horseshit repgrinding scam that we've seen literally 1000 times in the last 2 years.

Hey, maybe some poor slob will actually get scammed in the end, then the OP can go brag to all his friends and we'll have 12 terrible copycats that people can similarly engage.

Learn a lesson here. 99% of these are scams, and the last 1% are people showing how "good" they are by not scamming. These serve no purpose beyond scamming or jerking yourself off that you're not a scammer.

There are around 10 interesting threads up about actual market issues. Go read and post in them.


I agree with you that there is tons and tons of scams out there Elise, and it seems to me like you have been scammed more then once hence the negative comments coming from you, but thats not my fault. I dont think there is nothing else I can say or do to change your opinion so I wish you the best of luck!

-Chris
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