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Multiboxing softwares ruining pvp

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seth Hendar
I love you miners
#381 - 2013-08-16 09:32:25 UTC  |  Edited by: seth Hendar
Alavaria Fera wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:

on our side, we already know some "groups" doing it, solution will be simple: each kill they do will be petitionned by all our pilots, 300+ petition / kill will maybe draw CCP attention on this

300 is all you'll get buddy!! cause I'm multiboxing the other 499,700

lol

Abusing the petition system huh. Well... ok then.

i will insist on one point tho.

we are not asking them to do it for every kill, those who petition in such case are the one who find this mechanic abuse AND are directly concerned with the kills (i.e. were on the field / part of the OP where it happened) we do not ask them to send a petition when there was one pilot involved, and everyone is free to do it.

some pilots think isboxer is legit, thus do not petition such kills, and we are totally fine with that, it's up to them, but most do think isboxer is a problem and game mechanic abuse, so they petition.

under those conditions, i don't think we can call this a petition abuse.

and for now, it is not relevant anyway, CCP disabled the petitions so....
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#382 - 2013-08-16 12:03:48 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:



All of those links are locked threads.


So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked?
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Pubbies don't bother to check


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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#383 - 2013-08-16 12:25:25 UTC
What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".

And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).

You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.

And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#384 - 2013-08-16 12:31:16 UTC
TKL HUN wrote:
There is no crying buddy, I just shared my opinion.


Then why are you crying so hard when no one has a similar opinion to yours?

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Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#385 - 2013-08-16 14:28:20 UTC
Bring ships that kill...

If he has AC tornadoes, you should bring ARTY Battleships. Because he was set up for camping close range.

Use long range artillery, MWD, and passive shield buffer. Warp in, lock, volley fire, hope for the killmail.

If he has artillery tornadoes, set up for long range, bring couple armor tanked heavy hitters, possibly megathrones, armageddons, dominixes. Warp on top at close range, kill them all slowly one by one. He will be forced to disengage and warp off.


Tornadoes are not HP monsters, drones can easily hurt them, 10-15 heavy drones, all that fail army will be disoriented in that mess.

It is mostly usless to multibox vs multiple swarming targets. Meanwhile your domies can RR and permtank with RR energy RR armor reps.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia
#386 - 2013-08-16 15:16:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".

And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).

You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.

And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.


I don't want to change EVE, don't know why are you thinking it.
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia
#387 - 2013-08-16 15:17:07 UTC
SmokinDank wrote:
TKL HUN wrote:
There is no crying buddy, I just shared my opinion.


Then why are you crying so hard when no one has a similar opinion to yours?


I'm not crying, and there are similar opinions, just look trough the whole topic.
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#388 - 2013-08-16 15:21:10 UTC
TKL HUN wrote:
I'm not crying, and there are similar opinions, just look trough the whole topic.


Oh I did, also the eve-search thread where I could see the personal attacks you made on folks who didn't agree with you. So many tears my bucket runneth over.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#389 - 2013-08-16 15:23:26 UTC
TKL HUN wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".

And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).

You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.

And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.


I don't want to change EVE, don't know why are you thinking it.


In fact you do. ISBoxer is allowed, you want ccp to change it's stance from "we don't care" to "BANNED!". That's a change.

I don't have a problem with people using ISBoxer. I tried it for pve but it's tedious to set up and confusing to use. Way easier to just use an alt domi and assign drones.

If I didn't like the fact that people with isboxer could beat me (I don't ever recall losing a ship to someone doing that however), I'd learn how to use ISBoxer and beat hem at their own game (since it's allowed) OR use different tactics to beat them (exploiting the weaknesses people endure while multiboxing, like using damps or ecm burst on some of his ships to mess up locking/lock times thus making him deal with a less fine tuned isbox fleet) rather than start a thread on a forum in hopes of getting it banned.

I just think that what you've done here is very weak-minded. Real gamers fight back and win, not run to mommy and whine.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#390 - 2013-08-16 15:25:07 UTC
Opertone wrote:
Bring ships that kill...

If he has AC tornadoes, you should bring ARTY Battleships. Because he was set up for camping close range.

Use long range artillery, MWD, and passive shield buffer. Warp in, lock, volley fire, hope for the killmail.

If he has artillery tornadoes, set up for long range, bring couple armor tanked heavy hitters, possibly megathrones, armageddons, dominixes. Warp on top at close range, kill them all slowly one by one. He will be forced to disengage and warp off.


Tornadoes are not HP monsters, drones can easily hurt them, 10-15 heavy drones, all that fail army will be disoriented in that mess.

It is mostly usless to multibox vs multiple swarming targets. Meanwhile your domies can RR and permtank with RR energy RR armor reps.


TKL Hun isn't looking for solutions, he's looking for someone to fix it for him. Your excellent tactical advice will fall of deaf ears.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#391 - 2013-08-16 16:27:34 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
TKL HUN wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".

And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).

You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.

And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.


I don't want to change EVE, don't know why are you thinking it.


In fact you do. ISBoxer is allowed, you want ccp to change it's stance from "we don't care" to "BANNED!". That's a change.

I don't have a problem with people using ISBoxer. I tried it for pve but it's tedious to set up and confusing to use. Way easier to just use an alt domi and assign drones.

If I didn't like the fact that people with isboxer could beat me (I don't ever recall losing a ship to someone doing that however), I'd learn how to use ISBoxer and beat hem at their own game (since it's allowed) OR use different tactics to beat them (exploiting the weaknesses people endure while multiboxing, like using damps or ecm burst on some of his ships to mess up locking/lock times thus making him deal with a less fine tuned isbox fleet) rather than start a thread on a forum in hopes of getting it banned.

I just think that what you've done here is very weak-minded. Real gamers fight back and win, not run to mommy and whine.

Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#392 - 2013-08-16 16:29:12 UTC
SmokinDank wrote:
TKL HUN wrote:
I'm not crying, and there are similar opinions, just look trough the whole topic.

Oh I did, also the eve-search thread where I could see the personal attacks you made on folks who didn't agree with you. So many tears my bucket runneth over.

The mighty search engine.

Busted.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#393 - 2013-08-16 17:25:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
Quote:
this mechanic abuse


What mechanic abuse?

Sometimes I say sarcastic stuff and get accused of being a troll... but seriously, people that don't bother to read the thread and then post inaccurate information are the worst lot.

There is zero mechanic abuse involved here. Its 3rd party software. We've been over it a lot. A lot a lot. We've explained it, made jokes about it, and explained it again.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia
#394 - 2013-08-16 18:27:15 UTC
SmokinDank wrote:
TKL HUN wrote:
I'm not crying, and there are similar opinions, just look trough the whole topic.


Oh I did, also the eve-search thread where I could see the personal attacks you made on folks who didn't agree with you. So many tears my bucket runneth over.


Personal attacks? What are you talking about?
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia
#395 - 2013-08-16 18:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: TKL HUN
Jenn aSide wrote:
TKL HUN wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".

And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).

You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.

And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.


I don't want to change EVE, don't know why are you thinking it.


In fact you do. ISBoxer is allowed, you want ccp to change it's stance from "we don't care" to "BANNED!". That's a change.

I don't have a problem with people using ISBoxer. I tried it for pve but it's tedious to set up and confusing to use. Way easier to just use an alt domi and assign drones.

If I didn't like the fact that people with isboxer could beat me (I don't ever recall losing a ship to someone doing that however), I'd learn how to use ISBoxer and beat hem at their own game (since it's allowed) OR use different tactics to beat them (exploiting the weaknesses people endure while multiboxing, like using damps or ecm burst on some of his ships to mess up locking/lock times thus making him deal with a less fine tuned isbox fleet) rather than start a thread on a forum in hopes of getting it banned.

I just think that what you've done here is very weak-minded. Real gamers fight back and win, not run to mommy and whine.


You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.

Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care?
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#396 - 2013-08-16 18:31:03 UTC
TKL HUN wrote:
Personal attacks? What are you talking about?


Haha those posts you made that got the thread locked and cleaned. I guess I can understand why you can't see them through your veil of tears.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#397 - 2013-08-16 18:40:36 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked?
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Pubbies don't bother to check





Each link I clicked were locked... are you trying to say that one link out of all of those you posted was unlocked? If so, why link the others?

Just post the 1 unlocked link and call it a day.

BTW, they are all locked still.(And yes, I checked them all again just now in case maybe I missed one).

So I am telling you, your links are locked. Which is what I said earlier, and what I am still saying now.

Check your own links please.

This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate.

Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#398 - 2013-08-16 18:46:16 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".

And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).

You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.

And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.



Yea it's a terrible response when always faced with "vote with your wallets".

We call it "posturing" lol. People use the same arguments with RMTing as well.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#399 - 2013-08-16 18:46:46 UTC
TKL HUN wrote:


You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.

Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care?


Just calling em like I see em.

The funniest part is that most people in this thread are like me and don't have a problem with ISBoxer kiddies doing their thing. You seem to think that starting this discussion (which has been around as long as isboxer) and keeping it going is going to have some effect.

The effect is that CCP sees support for it's current stance on ISBoxer.......

Congrats, you just made it even less likely that CCP ever bands multiboxing software.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#400 - 2013-08-16 18:49:47 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
TKL HUN wrote:
You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.

Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care?

The funniest part is that most people in this thread are like me and don't have a problem with ISBoxer kiddies doing their thing. You seem to think that starting this discussion (which has been around as long as isboxer) and keeping it going is going to have some effect.

The effect is that CCP sees support for it's current stance on ISBoxer.......

Congrats, you just made it even less likely that CCP ever bands multiboxing software.

Great stuff, I was thinking about isboxer. Lyris Nairn reports good things about it.

Maybe using it to multibox torp bombers for the next CFC sov war.

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