Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes I have used the current eos in small gangs, it's bad :p

But yes it deserves the 7th low, it gets a single standard bonus to drone damage, while other ships are getting things like double 10% damage and 7.5% damage and rof

With 1 magstab the Astarte does over 1k dps, with a single drone damage amp, an eos does less dps than an Astarte with no mag stabs... Lol? With drones meant for hitting bs's and bc's

Astarte with full tank, no magstabs with 2 hams an void neutrons gets 870 dps
1 magstab 1012
2 magstab 1166
3 magstab 1277

Eos with 4 void neutrons and 5 ogre 2's
702 dps
1 dda 812
2 dda 929
3 dda 1021

That is not balanced, especially when u realize the eos can only use 2 flights of heavies and nothing else, destroy them and lol
It's a good step in the right direction but the eos needs another low
5/5/7. Move a high to a mid and add a low
Leave the current bonuses and gun slots
Make it interesting compared to the others while being balanced

Please use heavy drones and realize how slow they are, and how easy it is to kill them when u can't scoop up up from blaster range, even with the nice buff to heavy drone speed ogres are laughably slow, you need to web and be in blaster range to use them

Edit: even if they were fast enough, current drone so makes it so they will always end up with weird loops putting them way out of optimal, mitigating a lot of the damage, only way to avoid that is by webbing, also
Heavy drones require webbing

What you say has some merit, but lasers do have one specific advantage in pvp in that they can apply full damage at a longer range than any other gunnery system.

It's fairly obvious to me that the slot layouts of amarr ships suggest that they are designed to work in fleets, and in such groups they are deadly well beyond blaster and autocannon ranges (ignoring the machariel for a moment).

This is a huge advantage and reinforces the traditional Eve doctrine of:
Gallente : I can only hit you in scram range, but it's going to be hard
Minmatarr: I can hit you pretty hard in disruptor range and you find it hard to hit me back
Amarr: We can blap you from beyond your sorry inferior projectile gun ranges
Caldari: We can bombard you from 200km with our mega-missiles and there's no way you're hitting us back because we have scorpions. PWND!

For the record, I tend to fly gallente. It means I have to pick my fights and set them up carefully, but if I do my preparation and don't miss something, I tend to win - mostly.

Stop posting

I agree. And it's right and good that every race has a disadvantage to go along with their advantages. It means you have to think and work out how to fill the holes of your own fleet's weaknesses while exploiting those of your opponents.

Gallente take withering fire while getting in range so arrive already damaged.
Minmatar skirmishers are f**ked if they get scrammed.
Amarr want to keep ships at range and have to work hard to do it.
Caldari... well, the challenge for them is to stop people simply bouncing off a celestial and onto their position.

These offsetting advantages and disadvantages work together to make Eve the complex, rich and rewarding game we all love, right?

I'd still like a high slot module, basically a modified tractor beam, that when activated would grab your normally stationary sentry drones and drag them into position around your ship... holding them in a group around you while you move.

Interestingly enough Gallente used to be almost as slow as amarr but have recently been getting speed buff in large propotions brining them closer to mimatar lvls, greatly reducing their disadvantage for getting in close, especialy when they only usualy have to burn say 15-25k to get a scram on where they then have an overwhelming dps advantage even if 30% of their tank is already gone. Not saying thsi is bad but just that amarr could overcome some of their weakness eventualy.

Actually, I'd not mind the fitting bonus on Amarr ships IF lasers were as they were originally intended: They were intended to have better innate stats that the other weapons systems (better damage/tracking/damage modifiers, etc.) at the cost of really high cap use. To balance it out, and prevent other races from all fitting the innately-better lasers, Amarr ships would have bonuses to cap use to keep the lasers under control and because lasers wouldn't need "traditional" tracking or damage bonuses due to their built-in advantages. Further, the capacitor was sort of the Amarr's "ammo." Lasers could fire for much longer on Amarr ships, but they weren't intended to fire forever (especially since their actual crystal ammo lasted forever).

But, as the game evolved, this philosophy seems to have been somewhat diminished, and lasers have become nerfed over time to be only slightly better than other weapons systems at certain things, while Amarr ships have lost the energy use bonuses and been compensated with more capacitor/recharge.

Lasers need to be restored to their original design intent. Make them stronger (tracking/damage/range/etc.) innately and then the cap use bonus begins to make sense again.

Sry for breaking your Little Amarrian Heart, but you know Amarr is more then simply cap problems and give them a seperate Skill is just horrific, hell i Even dont like Burst Controlle give us another Cap Recharge Skill instead or we can start giving every single Race a seperate Skill to compensate every disadventage they have, yeah sounds legit.

And no i dont like this Skill because Amarr dont have any advantage from that Skill so its the same Problem just in green instead of blue.

With your "rebalance" it will be the only ship used in big fleet fights. Thanks for making it a "niche' roll and making the other command ships worthless in nullsec.

gg.

will you be giving back all of that SP that people dropped in to command ships and links? you just made the year training for them pointless for nullsec.