EVE General Discussion

Helios

Ok I have reassessed my position on new models and have come up with following conclusions:

1. As much as I love CCP for the heart and effort they put into this game we have to remember they are company that needs to make profit. Therefore changes to the game should: a) attract new players, b) keep the old ones playing.

2. Attracting new players in terms of ship models is easier. You need several iconic ships for every race that are a “must have” to a new player according to his personal taste. Redesigning rookie ships was an excellent example of this. The thing the new players aim for at first are the bc, so they are most important. Fortunately they are all pretty good except maybe caldari ones (anyone likes ferox?). But u still can improve them by making them not good but ultra cool. The apocalypse is a great example of this – u took a good model, and perfected it to an uber-cool degree. Conclusion: improve those ships that people most commonly fly. Drake would be a great starter. BTW ever heard a noob saying: “omg I’m going to fly a Blackbird, I always pictured myself as a spece-brick pilot”…?

3. Improve ships that are the most common npc-ships. All the npc battleships that serve in navy, customs or pirate fleets are highly visible to noobs and trigger one of the two reactions: “omg I want to fly this thing one day” or “wtf is this crap?”. In that regard Scorpions are great, Armageddons are so so (they look as a nice civilian liner not a battleship of the God’s Navy), Typhoons are kinda ok for someone who likes space junk, but need some texture love, and a flying potato is well… a flying potato. Some people say they like them but I can bet my deadspace fitted tengu that they won’t cry much when u change it for something cooler. Certainly noobs could love them especially as their first lvl 4 mission runner.

4. The most difficult thing: making the old players happy. Let’s be honest: it’s not possible. I like symmetrical ships, someone else doesn’t. I like sleek ships, someone likes bulky ones. Someone likes vertical ships.. oh wait we all love vertical shpis :D. What to do: keep the character of every race so that each one is unique and everyone chooses what he pleases. I love advanced, symmetrical, aggressively looking ships. So I fly Amarr. What I don’t get is why: omen is asymmetrical , Aeon is both asymmetrical and junk-ugly, Avatar is a giant butt-plug and so on. Please remove those characteristics and keep them in other races – this way everyone will be happy.

5. There are several design trend in CCP that show in every race ships, but imho should be kept to one or two races:

a. Most ships are front heavy in terms of hull size and subsystems: giant heads, small tails. It may look good (brutix) or bad (Avatar) but a little more variety should be added. 3 out of 4 titans have giant heads. 3 out of 4 dreads have this also. Much like most battleships (Gedeon, Abaddon, Potato, Maelstrom and few more). Again some should stay that way others shouldn’t. Why Hurricane is so cool? Because it’s one of the few ships without heavy head, and looks like a frikking star destroyer!

b. Enforced asymmetrical shapes. Much was said about that so I will just repeat: asymmetrical shapes should make sense (Reven) and not be ridiculous (Moa, 5th engine on Mach).

c. Not using cool looking hulls enough (why no Hurricane based command ship? Why no faction Abaddon? Why no variation of a tier 3 BC which are all outstanding?)

Saying that I still appreciate what u have done so far and can’t wait to see new Paladin ( but if u make it asymmetrical…grrr).

They remind me of those aliens from the movie Fifth Element. And yes, they are ugly.



Caracal is fine such as it is. Looks a lot like Klingon warbird.

CCP!!!

Free those art slaves you keep feeding with sheep testis and beer, free their creativity and change the looks of the game, this would be refreshing and overall good.

Leave old models already build as they are, those would become expensive rare pinatas to add to the KB but change is good, since it's only visual change this can only be good and make Eve even greater.

That Nyx design, jesus it's just fantastic

That new Nemesis, so sexy

That new Mega hull is so amazing

Those new added ships have such great looking

Time now to get to serious business and revamp old stuff designs, make them more aggressive, bad ass, look like real spaceships your imagination would fear the sight of it and not laugh at -Dominix, Moa, Helios, Celestis, Rapier everyone?

In Dire need

Moa - Oh god please
Domi - I know there are a lot of people who love the iconic domi. Id like to compromise..make a version of it that isnt a flying shoe/whale, perhaps in the t2 versions
Thanatos - The nyx looks soooo good, but this looks soooo bad
Caracal - It looks so flimsy for a ship carrying missiles. Maybe beef it up a little while keeping its general shape
Bantam
Imicus


Would be nice
Condor - Its a bit plain
Aeon - Still needs to have its other half built :P
Impairor / tormentor - share a similar look, would be cool to make one a little different

I cant believe how much aeon hate! That thing is probably my favorite looking ship next to the nightmare. Reminds me of a floating city or something... i dunno it just looks epic.

To me the imicus/helios is definitely ugly as hell and needs a complete re-work

The caracal just looks too flimsy and puny and the texture is too old.

The ship i would most like to see re-done is the rupture. Its such a great ship for novice minmatar pilots to fly and its texture is soooo old. To me its one of matari's flag ships. I think the style and spirit of the ship should remain but just add some new texture to it. Also maybe move the bridge or remove it.

Also whats the deal with the sparkling silver panels on minmatar ships? Is that like a run on the minmatar duct tape joke. Maelstrom nose looks soo freakin dumb. Get rid of that ****.

Please don't touch the Drake, you just reskinned it last year and I love it. Don't know why anyone would say the Drake, or Domi either..

Unique models are great, even the Moa has it's charms about it. It'd be good if every ship had it's own unique model, as there are some that are just recolored versions of others. Please don't touch the ones that are already unique though, they all have their style and I'd hate to even see the Moa changed, it is at least different and fun in it's own style :-)

Of all the ships that need love its the Moa and Eagle. If they were half as vicious as what they resemble it would be a great boat..Angler Fish

I would like to see the Sabre and the Scimitar have more of an eidolon-like curve to them

Player Owned Stations. Not a ship ,I know.... they just don't feel like space stations. More like, space trailer parks.