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The unexpected little things highsec miners dont think of.
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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#1 - 2013-07-31 11:40:49 UTC
So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. What? however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.


make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.

Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2 - 2013-07-31 11:44:46 UTC
It's kind of weird that suicide gankers get punished for avoiding the consequences of a gank, while miners are allowed to exploit game mechanics to protect themselves from the same consequences.

Oh god.
Luci Ambrye
The Service Crew
#3 - 2013-07-31 11:46:25 UTC
doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#4 - 2013-07-31 11:47:25 UTC
The plot thickens...

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Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-31 11:48:16 UTC
Then the ganker can use an alt or even his main to get rid of Concord... Good plan you've got there.

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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#6 - 2013-07-31 11:50:46 UTC
Tubrug1 wrote:
Then the ganker can use an alt or even his main to get rid of Concord... Good plan you've got there.


really ? lol. hrm. altho concord isnt going to swarm for just 1 ship lol. thats distracting them. theyd send about 2-3 tops unless you really make them mad, then you run away fast
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#7 - 2013-07-31 11:51:24 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. What? however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.


make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.

Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).


You must be new here.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-31 11:51:37 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
It's kind of weird that suicide gankers get punished for avoiding the consequences of a gank, while miners are allowed to exploit game mechanics to protect themselves from the same consequences.


How do you get punished for pulling concord away using the exact same tactic? You can even use it with the same account insetad of having to log-in a second account.
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#9 - 2013-07-31 11:51:53 UTC
Probably shouldn't have posted this on your main, good sir, now every suicide ganker in the game will be out to make sure you get taken down and thus proven wrong ...
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#10 - 2013-07-31 11:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tauranon
As far as I understood, trying to pre-position concord to "protect" yourself is petitionable, but calling concord off isn't.

The purpose of Concord is not to protect your ship, its to take the aggressors ship. The method that you protect your ship, is to provide it with a tank, and concord is not to be used to avoid the consequence of not providing it with a tank.
Dring Dingle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-07-31 11:53:21 UTC
Seen guys do this for a couple of years now. i think its fair.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#12 - 2013-07-31 11:54:59 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Probably shouldn't have posted this on your main, good sir, now every suicide ganker in the game will be out to make sure you get taken down and thus proven wrong ...




I welcome that with open arms actually. Not affraid of looseing ships just a game to me :). and i can get more plexes anytime :)
Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-07-31 11:56:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Abyss Azizora
Luci Ambrye wrote:
doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked.


What this guy said, it does make it to where the suicide gankers have to bring more alpha damage to gank you, but it doesn't in any way "prevent" being ganked.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#14 - 2013-07-31 11:56:33 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. What? however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.


make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.

Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).


You must be new here.



Yeah, totally never lost a exhummer or mining barge. in my 5 years to suicide gankers. Yeah so totaly new here.
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#15 - 2013-07-31 11:56:49 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnhTbAWmNKA

happens to me all the time. i always thought it was funny Lol

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#16 - 2013-07-31 11:58:55 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It's kind of weird that suicide gankers get punished for avoiding the consequences of a gank, while miners are allowed to exploit game mechanics to protect themselves from the same consequences.


How do you get punished for pulling concord away using the exact same tactic? You can even use it with the same account insetad of having to log-in a second account.


Pulling them away doesn't get you punished, avoiding the consequences of a gank however does. Meaning that you enable yourself to flee from concord before your ship is in the same state at the ship you just ganked (blown to pieces).

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Bok Molkar
not-it
#17 - 2013-07-31 11:59:00 UTC
Honestly, if you lose a hulk in High Sec to a ganker, you deserve it. I've lost one barge due to being AFK getting a blowjob. And after that I activated my killrights and popped his catalyst and 237M pod. Learn how to defend your ships.

LOL for real though, CONCORD helps you in like 5 seconds. Quit losing ships. Train other skills!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#18 - 2013-07-31 11:59:14 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. What? however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.


make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.

Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).

I have a simpler solution, fit a damn tank that doesn't consist of a civilian shield booster. Spawning Concord in your belt won't help at all, because the first thing a suicide ganker is going to do is make them spawn elsewhere.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-07-31 12:00:00 UTC
destiny2 wrote:

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).


Good job we'll be war-dec'ing you soon then... and "walla"... you won't even need that Alt to conjur up some invisible friends from CONCORD ...

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#20 - 2013-07-31 12:00:15 UTC
Abyss Azizora wrote:
Luci Ambrye wrote:
doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked.


What this guy said, it does make it to where the suicide gankers have to bring more alpha damage to gank you, but it doesn't in any way "prevent" being ganked.

It gives the miner more tank which means they have more protection.

Oh god.
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