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Is this big war bringing changes to EVE at all?

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Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-31 04:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ken 1138
With the recent super size 4000 man fleet battle in fountain. A battle so large it was mentioned on the BBC tech news with a stock picture of the what a fleet battle looks and not the actual pic since it would be completely confusing to a non EVE player.

I have to ask will this war affect me the man in empire/high sec or anything else for that matter? If yes, in what way? And if no, then why not? My guess it will not.

On a "lore scale size" this invasion and conquest of TEST space, this would be as if the Caldari would invade and conquer half of Gallente space, same with Amarr and Minmatar. Which would radically change how everything works.

If change is coming from this conquest and therefore Goons are a positive force like liberators then should we see the benefits? If they are hostile and oppressors, should things get worse? For everyone? I'd like to add, we as in "we capsuleers", are becoming so powerful should lore wise the empire leaders be considering us as enemies?

I'm all for player created content like what's going on. I find it fascinating and one of the aspects of EVE that initially made me want to start play this as far back as late 2009. Personally i'd be more bothered if it didn't affect us. Because living the solo life as i do i can't live in null sec and hope to stay alive, let alone do anything worthwhile. It's not like story elements and live events are doing much.

I'd like to see a Dev reply to this, as i'm curious of what's really down the line. Things seem very, for lack of a better word "hollow" with EVE happenings lately.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#2 - 2013-07-31 04:23:30 UTC
you are really overthinking this.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-07-31 04:26:33 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
you are really overthinking this.



Not empty quoting.

For real it means nothing if you never leave hi sec....unless you supply doctrine ships.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-07-31 04:35:37 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
you are really overthinking this.



Not empty quoting.

For real it means nothing if you never leave hi sec....unless you supply doctrine ships.


Or use them.

We will also be funding some high sec events now that our money bins are being replenished.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-07-31 04:59:50 UTC
Vindicators are about to get cheaper I guess.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#6 - 2013-07-31 07:12:13 UTC
Usually power blocs within nullsec don't last long enough to warrant a shift in power balances beyond null/lowsec that would influence highsec Empires. You have the buffer zone of lowsec in most areas and nullsec is just that pirate/nullsec-carebear infested no-mans-land that the Empires were too lazy to expand into and just leave it cut off by Concord.

Now, if the ClusterFuck Coalition manage to expand, let's say into Delve, but even just hold Fountain and their regions for long enough, maybe a year or two even, then I believe CCP should integrate that somehow into the lore. Empires uniting to fight the nullsec threat? A highsec dream for some (hey Harry Forever!) but highly improbable. I think we should just wait and see how things develop in nullsec. It is usually volatile enough that it balances itself out.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#7 - 2013-07-31 07:35:56 UTC
William Walker wrote:


Now, if the ClusterFuck Coalition manage to expand, let's say into Delve, but even just hold Fountain and their regions for long enough, maybe a year or two even, then I believe CCP should integrate that somehow into the lore. Empires uniting to fight the nullsec threat? A highsec dream for some (hey Harry Forever!) but highly improbable. I think we should just wait and see how things develop in nullsec. It is usually volatile enough that it balances itself out.

No!

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#8 - 2013-07-31 07:37:10 UTC
Quote:
Is this big war bringing changes to EVE at all?


Status Quo did not change that much so... No!

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Citizen of Solitude

lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-07-31 07:55:09 UTC
Immediate changes would most likely be in the form of market items, availability, price etc.

Lore-wise, unless they do something truly significant (that has not been done before), nothing much will change.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-07-31 08:25:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
The answer to your question is a simple "no".

Some prices for items like moongoo, faction mods, ... might change a little but the impact on high-sec will be negligible.

This war might get an offf-hand mention in lore eventually but don't expect it to make any real difference - e.g. in the Templar One novel a character tells how he acquired a damaged dread from the aftermath of this battle. Keep in mind that the novel was published more than 2 years after the battle had taken place and its mention only added some flavor (an easter-egg for eve players reading the book if you wish), it didn't affect the story in any way.

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-07-31 08:41:49 UTC  |  Edited by: dexington
Ken 1138 wrote:
On a "lore scale size" this invasion and conquest of TEST space, this would be as if the Caldari would invade and conquer half of Gallente space, same with Amarr and Minmatar.


It is much like the amarr/minmatar conflict, just like the minmatar are former slaves of the amarr empire, so is TEST former slaver of the CFC.

CFC was just a little quicker and more efficient in dealing with their rebel scum, when compared to the amarr, but don't worry at some point the amarr will bring out the slave drivers cain and put the chain back on the minmatar, and all will be as it should be.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Spectatoress
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-07-31 09:01:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Spectatoress
baltec1 wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
you are really overthinking this.



Not empty quoting.

For real it means nothing if you never leave hi sec....unless you supply doctrine ships.


Or use them.

We will also be funding some high sec events now that our money bins are being replenished.


The usual braindead zerging on freighter you lowbirds call an "event" all the time, some of you cry here with alts to babble about "tears from pubbies" and call it "player driven content"? /yawn
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#13 - 2013-07-31 09:13:29 UTC
dexington wrote:
Ken 1138 wrote:
On a "lore scale size" this invasion and conquest of TEST space, this would be as if the Caldari would invade and conquer half of Gallente space, same with Amarr and Minmatar.


It is much like the amarr/minmatar conflict, just like the minmatar are former slaves of the amarr empire, so is TEST former slaver of the CFC.

CFC was just a little quicker and more efficient in dealing with their rebel scum, when compared to the amarr, but don't worry at some point the amarr will bring out the slave drivers cain and put the chain back on the minmatar, and all will be as it should be.


TEST Slaves Please Ignore on the market soon™?

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#14 - 2013-07-31 09:26:46 UTC
Generally speaking, CCP don't get involved in the player related lore. Things that happen in EVE are generally done by players. At the moment the only noticeable effect of the war on high sec is a shift in market prices around the modules heavily used in the war. Particularly where meta equipment had to be used in a doctrine to allow a fit to work, as meta gear isn't mass produced.
Going forward it's likely to be much of the same. These big wars have a large effect on alliance relationships, but generally only a short lived effect on the rest of the game.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-07-31 09:50:43 UTC
Spectatoress wrote:


The usual braindead zerging on freighter you lowbirds call an "event" all the time, some of you cry here with alts to babble about "tears from pubbies" and call it "player driven content"? /yawn


The forever whine about us over the last 2 years contridicts you.

dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-07-31 09:52:37 UTC
William Walker wrote:
dexington wrote:
Ken 1138 wrote:
On a "lore scale size" this invasion and conquest of TEST space, this would be as if the Caldari would invade and conquer half of Gallente space, same with Amarr and Minmatar.


It is much like the amarr/minmatar conflict, just like the minmatar are former slaves of the amarr empire, so is TEST former slaver of the CFC.

CFC was just a little quicker and more efficient in dealing with their rebel scum, when compared to the amarr, but don't worry at some point the amarr will bring out the slave drivers cain and put the chain back on the minmatar, and all will be as it should be.


TEST Slaves Please Ignore on the market soon™?


They are called Exotic Dancers... maybe not exotic... and dancer might not be the right word. When begging for isk don't work anymore, i am sure they will dance for you if you stick a 1-2M isk in their thong.

What is it you call such a person?... oh, yeah they are called prostitutes, lucky for TEST ccp removed them from the game, now test can monopolize the market, should take long before they have enough isk to reboot the war machine... better watch out goons.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Kara Corvinus
The Empyrean Order
#17 - 2013-07-31 10:07:15 UTC
You're affected.

The beauty of eve is like an hour glass, you turn it upside, ALL the sand will fall.

1 ship is destroyed? there was a higher demand for minerals in an area to create a new one, thus the market raised by 0.01isk
4k players go and buy new ships all at once? Its going to affect you even in high sec.

Now whether this is a game breaking disaster for you or a market price increase of 0.01 isk, its debatable.

lets look at this in reverse, and see how your affecting eve. you do missions for 1 week & have 50 meta 4 arbi cruise launchers, you place them on the market, 1000isk then lowest sell, the other traders don't want to wait, so they under cut you, the sales drop by 10%, YOU had an impact on that market whether or not you know it. YOU influenced other peoples game play ( the people that bought it & the other traders )

Why am i posting the above? because most people fail to see what the butterfly effect truly is. every action you make, affects others, now if that's warping a cap ship into the wrong place by accident and causing a 6 month chain of events that leads to a 4k person fleet brawl, or if its running missions and having a influence of the market in your region by 0.00000000001 isk, it doesn't matter.

So to answer your questions :
yes it has an effect and thus brings a change.
how much? only CCP knows.
Things seem "hallow" because you lack the imagination to think of the impacts of what every aspect of game play has on others. open your eyes my friend! its a wonderful game :)
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-07-31 10:28:38 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Spectatoress wrote:


The usual braindead zerging on freighter you lowbirds call an "event" all the time, some of you cry here with alts to babble about "tears from pubbies" and call it "player driven content"? /yawn


The forever whine about us over the last 2 years contridicts you.


bolded important part

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-08-01 11:11:11 UTC
There's a interesting, more general take on whether the CFC-versus-TEST war has larger implications (although not, admittedly, for those with no interest in null sec) at Fiddler's Edge.

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#20 - 2013-08-01 11:21:35 UTC
When the 4 hi-sec factions want to play hardball, they field one Titan.

When 0.0 entities do it, they field double-digits.

I think it's about time the hi-sec factions kiss and make up, and turn their eye on the uncontrolled supercap production in 0.0.

I'm pretty sure the Caldari State wouldn't like "Burn Jita; the Titan Edition". Don't think CONCORD could deal with that. They have to crawl to the capsuleers for a few Sansha motherships supercarriers.
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