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Racist Tears Harvest. Yumyum for sure.

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Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#101 - 2013-07-31 12:18:56 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
People that seem to be defending racism are ignorant in the extreme. The nature of freedom is countries based on laws means that some freedoms need to be given up to insure a fair and just society. Thankfully, the sort of "freedoms" we are talking about are things like murder, raping, stealing and even racism. Sure there are plenty of people in the world that like to do these things, but unfortunately they have no place in civilalized society.

Racism essentially boils down to ignorance. I could have been bullied by a kid with a big nose when i was younger, and grow up to have a deep hatred towards everyone with a big nose. Stupid huh? I mean, everyone is completely different, people with big noses are going to be competely different too. But that doesn't matter to me, those damn big nosed bastards are scum, the lot of them! Shocked

Justify it anyway you like, but racism is just as stupid as this. You could pick just about any feature to apply ignorant prejudices, eye colour, gender, skin colour, religion, national background. If you happen to have one of these prejudices, then quite franky i feel sorry for you. I recommend you think back, find the route source of your ignorance, be that some sort of negative experience or good old family indoctrination, and rethink your position. Cause quite franky, your wrong! Cool


The problem with your view is that simple insults become racism. We insult what we see, meaning you're not going to call a black man a dirty Jew, even if his grandmother is Jewish. Racism is determined and constant discrimination. Now when a race is forced to live on a small tract of land that the government continually tries to make smaller they can complain of racism today. A couple mean words is not racism. People claim racism, when they have large groups demanding greater rights than others. They claim racism even when laws are changed to give them greater rights than others. They claim racism because they have to follow the same laws as others. They claim its racist if race ISN'T a factor in college admissions. How terrible their lives must be. They only get MILLIONS in tax funded scholarships. They only get preferential treatment in college applications. They only get extra points on their SAT. They only get amnesty for entering the country illegally. How terribly racist of us.
Kalishka Askulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2013-07-31 12:24:26 UTC
Smack talk is one thing, but come off it!!!!

Betty White knows it
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#103 - 2013-07-31 12:25:47 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:
Waitaminute. Ace chip in without WoW mention? Pinch me.


You won't have to worry about Ace for a while, since I had to cancel my EvE accounts.

5.4 is around the corner and I still need 522 gear (and enough CP points to arena 24/7 for a week).

But I'm sure folks will still be talking about me (I should just make a YouTube channel and post weekly updates, then players can have some WoW player to cry about Acing them at their own game). Lol


The prodigal son goes home? Sure we'll talk about you... Most of general discussion will go into semi-hibernation.
"Dudes, you remember the times we had a Blizzard rep here?" *sigh* "Yeah, those were the times..."

Personally I'll miss you. Please make that YT channel, I'll subscribe. Aced_Fanboy is still free I think.

Now... I hope I didn't unintentionally make any racist remarks against elves, gnomes, goblins or - God forbid! - trolls now.

I don't like racists, but:
1. without the concrete example fully at hand, I will not applaude here because some bio got deleted
2. I think this is something of a more silent, personal victory, not something to put onto the forums.

I have been called a fascist in this game, just because I discussed something in German with someone else?
I don't think they really assumed I was one. They just hurled what the thought was the most hurting thing they could say at me, followed by the usual suggestions that I was also gay, impotent and/or a sodomist.

Sadly this is a war against stupidity that cannot be won by getting some symptoms removed - like a bio.
For the larger part - though - the EVE community is refreshingly international in an accepting and open way. It is one of the reasons I still enjoy the game very much.

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Markatta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2013-07-31 12:33:05 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
He's Laotian.

...what ocean?
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#105 - 2013-07-31 12:34:08 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Yep, it's a choice as primates are like that. Unless you don't consider yourself a primate........

I don't know about this stuff, but describing homosexuality as a choice seems wrong to me and probably quite offensive.


Technically she is right.

Homosexuality is practiced homophilia. It's beyond your choice which gender you feel attracted to. But having sexual intercourse is (usually) a conscious act of choice.



Zimmy, yer googles mate Lol

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symolan
BamBam Inc.
#106 - 2013-07-31 12:34:52 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:


Confirming you have to be left wing to find racism offensive


Quoted for emphasis.

The good thing about free speech is that morons use it to show the world that they are such indeed.
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#107 - 2013-07-31 12:36:31 UTC
And the arguments that freedom of speech isn't real because you can't make death threats, or incite violence, or release my personal information are just plain stupid. You have every right to speak freely, except when you're speech is an attempt to infringe on MY rights, or the rights of others. You are free to tell Mexicans to leave, you're free to call me names, you are not free to impede my rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Just as my pursuit of happiness cannot actively impede yours. Freedom is universal, which means we cannot be free to oppress others. That doesn't make us any less free, however. That being said, our rights are being slowly eroded as liberal governments enact more and more laws "for the greater good."
symolan
BamBam Inc.
#108 - 2013-07-31 12:36:44 UTC  |  Edited by: symolan
Xavier Higdon wrote:
[quote=Xen Solarus]
The problem with your view is that simple insults become racism. We insult what we see, meaning you're not going to call a black man a dirty Jew, even if his grandmother is Jewish. Racism is determined and constant discrimination. Now when a race is forced to live on a small tract of land that the government continually tries to make smaller they can complain of racism today. A couple mean words is not racism. People claim racism, when they have large groups demanding greater rights than others. They claim racism even when laws are changed to give them greater rights than others. They claim racism because they have to follow the same laws as others. They claim its racist if race ISN'T a factor in college admissions. How terrible their lives must be. They only get MILLIONS in tax funded scholarships. They only get preferential treatment in college applications. They only get extra points on their SAT. They only get amnesty for entering the country illegally. How terribly racist of us.


If you start too many sentences with "THEY", then it borders on racism?

EDIT: guess it's rather on than to...
symolan
BamBam Inc.
#109 - 2013-07-31 12:39:17 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:

I don't like racists, but:
1. without the concrete example fully at hand, I will not applaude here because some bio got deleted
2. I think this is something of a more silent, personal victory, not something to put onto the forums.


while you're right in principle you have to take the form OP presented it into consideration.

And the form was worth the post.
Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2013-07-31 12:56:08 UTC
Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:
Took time off from pvp vs Jambo315 and New Order, try out new hobby: racist tear harvest from afar.

Spotted bio, awful rant against black people, obvious redneck combine barmy diss of socialism with dubious claims about ethnicity and economics. Bio author right royal muppet and no mistake guvnor. Not repeat illiterate word-mash of hatred and ignorance here but compot suggest parentplant not great thinker.

No excuse for racism, though. Time for pvp. Ammunition: words. Weapon: petition. I fire off single shot and logoff.

Come the glorious dawn, train binocs on target bio. Boom, headshot. Bio gone. Racist crybaby rage somewhere in hicksville, for sure. Them tears taste better than prime soup, even if assumed.

New Eden advanced society. No place for bigots while I still flying.


anyone else find the irony in the fact he is against racism yet he calls people who have racist comments in their bio "rednecks"?
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#111 - 2013-07-31 13:00:48 UTC
Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:
Took time off from pvp vs Jambo315 and New Order, try out new hobby: racist tear harvest from afar.


Harvesting racist tears?, are you fighting for real world racial equality in a computer game?, getting out much?

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Hicksimus
Torgue
#112 - 2013-07-31 13:18:41 UTC
Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:
Racist crybaby rage somewhere in hicksville, for sure..


Dang, they named a town after me?

Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
Starkiller Lothlorien
Doomheim
#113 - 2013-07-31 15:30:02 UTC
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
People that seem to be defending racism are ignorant in the extreme. The nature of freedom is countries based on laws means that some freedoms need to be given up to insure a fair and just society. Thankfully, the sort of "freedoms" we are talking about are things like murder, raping, stealing and even racism. Sure there are plenty of people in the world that like to do these things, but unfortunately they have no place in civilalized society.

Racism essentially boils down to ignorance. I could have been bullied by a kid with a big nose when i was younger, and grow up to have a deep hatred towards everyone with a big nose. Stupid huh? I mean, everyone is completely different, people with big noses are going to be competely different too. But that doesn't matter to me, those damn big nosed bastards are scum, the lot of them! Shocked

Justify it anyway you like, but racism is just as stupid as this. You could pick just about any feature to apply ignorant prejudices, eye colour, gender, skin colour, religion, national background. If you happen to have one of these prejudices, then quite franky i feel sorry for you. I recommend you think back, find the route source of your ignorance, be that some sort of negative experience or good old family indoctrination, and rethink your position. Cause quite franky, your wrong! Cool


The problem with your view is that simple insults become racism. We insult what we see, meaning you're not going to call a black man a dirty Jew, even if his grandmother is Jewish. Racism is determined and constant discrimination. Now when a race is forced to live on a small tract of land that the government continually tries to make smaller they can complain of racism today. A couple mean words is not racism. People claim racism, when they have large groups demanding greater rights than others. They claim racism even when laws are changed to give them greater rights than others. They claim racism because they have to follow the same laws as others. They claim its racist if race ISN'T a factor in college admissions. How terrible their lives must be. They only get MILLIONS in tax funded scholarships. They only get preferential treatment in college applications. They only get extra points on their SAT. They only get amnesty for entering the country illegally. How terribly racist of us.


Bio I ganked belong your alt, maybe?
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-07-31 15:33:21 UTC
symolan wrote:
Xavier Higdon wrote:
[quote=Xen Solarus]
The problem with your view is that simple insults become racism. We insult what we see, meaning you're not going to call a black man a dirty Jew, even if his grandmother is Jewish. Racism is determined and constant discrimination. Now when a race is forced to live on a small tract of land that the government continually tries to make smaller they can complain of racism today. A couple mean words is not racism. People claim racism, when they have large groups demanding greater rights than others. They claim racism even when laws are changed to give them greater rights than others. They claim racism because they have to follow the same laws as others. They claim its racist if race ISN'T a factor in college admissions. How terrible their lives must be. They only get MILLIONS in tax funded scholarships. They only get preferential treatment in college applications. They only get extra points on their SAT. They only get amnesty for entering the country illegally. How terribly racist of us.


If you start too many sentences with "THEY", then it borders on racism?

EDIT: guess it's rather on than to...


And that is exactly my point. You only care that I used the word they. The fact that my relatives are relegated to living on reservations doesn't matter to you. The fact that treaties are broken in order to oppress them is meaningless to you. To you, Native Americans don't exist. We are worthless, we don't matter, we don't warrant protection, we don't deserve freedom. Your anti-racism ideals are in fact more racist than the Klan.
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#115 - 2013-07-31 15:38:31 UTC
Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
People that seem to be defending racism are ignorant in the extreme. The nature of freedom is countries based on laws means that some freedoms need to be given up to insure a fair and just society. Thankfully, the sort of "freedoms" we are talking about are things like murder, raping, stealing and even racism. Sure there are plenty of people in the world that like to do these things, but unfortunately they have no place in civilalized society.

Racism essentially boils down to ignorance. I could have been bullied by a kid with a big nose when i was younger, and grow up to have a deep hatred towards everyone with a big nose. Stupid huh? I mean, everyone is completely different, people with big noses are going to be competely different too. But that doesn't matter to me, those damn big nosed bastards are scum, the lot of them! Shocked

Justify it anyway you like, but racism is just as stupid as this. You could pick just about any feature to apply ignorant prejudices, eye colour, gender, skin colour, religion, national background. If you happen to have one of these prejudices, then quite franky i feel sorry for you. I recommend you think back, find the route source of your ignorance, be that some sort of negative experience or good old family indoctrination, and rethink your position. Cause quite franky, your wrong! Cool


The problem with your view is that simple insults become racism. We insult what we see, meaning you're not going to call a black man a dirty Jew, even if his grandmother is Jewish. Racism is determined and constant discrimination. Now when a race is forced to live on a small tract of land that the government continually tries to make smaller they can complain of racism today. A couple mean words is not racism. People claim racism, when they have large groups demanding greater rights than others. They claim racism even when laws are changed to give them greater rights than others. They claim racism because they have to follow the same laws as others. They claim its racist if race ISN'T a factor in college admissions. How terrible their lives must be. They only get MILLIONS in tax funded scholarships. They only get preferential treatment in college applications. They only get extra points on their SAT. They only get amnesty for entering the country illegally. How terribly racist of us.


Bio I ganked belong your alt, maybe?


No, but your disdain for Native Americans is showing. Your views of equality are rather, well, unequal. You enjoy thinking you're morally superior because you defend one race, while you willingly ignore the oppression of another. Perhaps you ganked that bio because it hit too close to home.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#116 - 2013-07-31 16:03:37 UTC
Lee Hekard wrote:
The Right of Free Speech also, by definition, applies to those who are considered 'racists', 'N@zis', 'bigots', or anyone else you or society do not agree with. Simply applying the Right of Free Speech to defend those of us who hold 'normal' or 'the civilized' views, and quashing those who go against the norm, by definition, does not qualify as 'free' speech - it simply comes under the definition of censorship. So not only are you ignorant, misguided, stupid, and a sheep, but you also have every right to say / type-on-a-forum your ignorant, misguided, stupid, and sheep-like comments without fear of censorship because we (supposedly) live in a society of Free Speech. cool huh?

I wasn't aware that the right to free speech was universal, especially since the speech in question directly violates the rules of this game.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2013-07-31 16:18:17 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
The prodigal son goes home? Sure we'll talk about you... Most of general discussion will go into semi-hibernation.
"Dudes, you remember the times we had a Blizzard rep here?" *sigh* "Yeah, those were the times..."


Aidan's Song.

I'm sure you'll be missing me, but you know you could always...

(Millions but Aidan could understand the reference...but he's a perfect fit on this thread about cultural and ethnic ignorance...even across the games!).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2013-07-31 16:28:26 UTC
Xavier Higdon wrote:

And that is exactly my point. You only care that I used the word they. The fact that my relatives are relegated to living on reservations doesn't matter to you. The fact that treaties are broken in order to oppress them is meaningless to you. To you, Native Americans don't exist. We are worthless, we don't matter, we don't warrant protection, we don't deserve freedom. Your anti-racism ideals are in fact more racist than the Klan.


Call it: neo-racism.

Same old antics, different times.

Can see it now even. 40 years since desegregation and voting right changes, and as soon as the DoJ lessens their watch, some key Southern states started to toughen voter registration laws to the Jim Crow days.

These kids are but a new generation of the ignorant. That's what happens when folks are raised in ghettos and only see one color; one culture; one "world view" (Aidan's a perfect example of it as a EvE fanboi even...one game player who sits there insulting a different game because it's different than EvE, and still too ignorant to even want to change).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#119 - 2013-07-31 16:51:49 UTC

My favorite part was where the op mentioned the New Order. However, the website was missing. www.minerbumping.com

The rest just seems like an attempt to troll the forums:

1. Discusses a petition he filed, which is likely to get others to do the same. But we cannot discuss such matters.

2. As he blasts racism, he uses a derogatory word to describe country folk. Really? People who live in the country are not as good as you?

Thread devolves as expected into discussions of race and sexual orientation.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#120 - 2013-07-31 17:06:13 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


Can see it now even. 40 years since desegregation and voting right changes, and as soon as the DoJ lessens their watch, some key Southern states started to toughen voter registration laws to the Jim Crow days.


Really. Was it Pandaria that toughened up the voter registration laws?

Do the Tauren feel disenfranchised, now that they have to offer proof of residence to the Panda collective?