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Goons Doomsday Event - Recap!

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#41 - 2013-07-29 20:44:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Lucas Kell wrote:
Fearful nullsec propaganda.





Now now. Destroying the goons would be bad. First, they would sit around all butthurt and want to come back as something else, playing the victim card too. I see how their propaganda works. Second, it's more fun to watch organizations like that rot from within and harvest the spoils as it falls.

Already your empire is mostly empty. We might even start mining out there. And the rats - keep paying for that SOV and upgrading the systems.

But I'll have to get nasty here on one point, and this is for everybody who want to talk about stats.

I've been intruding into and stealing from nullsec since wormholes. If you want to talk about kills and losses, let me remind you and them:

This is not a ******* jousting game.

When I say nullsec piracy, I mean real "stealing your stuff" piracy. I mean making you look bad piracy. I mean making you lose time and/or ISK piracy. If this means shooting a ship, it's not going to be fair, it's not going to be expected. Go ahead and hang around in a T2 saying "come at be bro" and we'll laugh.

And for all you know, we have people you don't know about reaping rewards somewhere else, because you are in the field waiting for a joust, and we are there to rob you. Sure we'll gank you if we can, and we'll run if we cannot, and if you want to be angry over that and wag your stats and curse instead, you only look worse.

If this is not the way the game is meant to be played, then we would not have cloaks. We would not have bubbles. We would otherwise have something like "space jousting online". Big deal. Hey, let's save time. Let's put fittings together and then play calculator games. Why even have a sub?


The fact is, 10000 noobs roaming nullsec not afraid of their stats, not afraid to die, and slowly growing in skills and real experience, is a threat to nullsec. Everything that nullsec is built on is built on the lie that it can't happen, that nullsec is this deep dark place of instant death and certified total loss. That the only way to survive is to become another cog in the wheels of the power structure.

These are lies that only the large alliances are capable of spreading. They have the numbers to go into forums, game boards, just about everywhere, and tell everybody how horrible it is here.

But there is some truth: yeah those nullsec gate camps. Wow. Nullsec hides behind those. But every time, once past the initial gank pipeline, where are the hotdrops? Where is the blob? Where are the 20 tengus (is this one group of 20 that has a Probability Drive or is every nullsec constellation having one on standby?)

And what did one of the noobs get told at a first nullsec bubble camp?

"hotdrop or gtfo".

Oh how perfect. The camper himself talking the same smack lie.

I went to that camp in my SB and put a bomb right on top of a tengu. It was hilarious. There was around 20 minutes of smacktalk and gleeful ganking and then

"Headsh0t notl33t gbtWoW noobphag.."... .*BOOM*

Nothing but silence after that. Wakeup call.

Now, what am I SUPPOSED to do?

Your way? Your way is "hotdrop or gtfo".

Yeah, give them the attention of a hotdrop so they can SS up or jump into highsec and then talk more smack and bask in their leetness?

No, the carebear way is better. No words, no insult games, no playing on their terms. Just *BOOM*.


The humor went out of that camp. Suddenly killing everything that moves became a little more challenging. The certainty of being the killers and not the killed was gone.

And that's just a small example of nullsec can become a little more challenging.

The noob went back through that same gate this morning - there were no bubbles this time.

But I know, the reality is that nobody wants challenge. They want ISK and power and "jousting". They want to complain about highsec having everything as a diversion from the fact that nullsec is a beared up ISK spigot.

NOT playing the game the way you think it should be played is how we play this game. Taking the tools we have at hand and finding a way that is most unfriendly to to the power blocs, gate campers, and cannon fodder is how we play this game.

So many times some noob gets ganked and the battle cry is "THIS IS A SANDBOX!".

Well, indeed it is. And we are going to teach the new players and the veterans alike just that. And they are not going to be told that PVP is 10+ to 1 shiprape in a camp, or that it's 4000 ship fleet battles taking orders from high above so CEOs can felate themselves, or it's becoming a mult-year vet and then noob harvesting in highsec wardecs.

They will do what they want wherever they want, and if they fail, they will ship up again and try again.

We are going to tell them where to go. You will get to know them.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2013-07-29 20:58:31 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Fearful nullsec propaganda.





Now now. Destroying the goons would be bad. First, they would sit around all butthurt and want to come back as something else, playing the victim card too. I see how their propaganda works. Second, it's more fun to watch organizations like that rot from within and harvest the spoils as it falls.

Already your empire is mostly empty. We might even start mining out there. And the rats - keep paying for that SOV and upgrading the systems.

But I'll have to get nasty here on one point, and this is for everybody who want to talk about stats.

I've been intruding into and stealing from nullsec since wormholes. If you want to talk about kills and losses, let me remind you and them:

This is not a ******* jousting game.

When I say nullsec piracy, I mean real "stealing your stuff" piracy. I mean making you look bad piracy. I mean making you lose time and/or ISK piracy. If this means shooting a ship, it's not going to be fair, it's not going to be expected. Go ahead and hang around in a T2 saying "come at be bro" and we'll laugh.

And for all you know, we have people you don't know about reaping rewards somewhere else, because you are in the field waiting for a joust, and we are there to rob you. Sure we'll gank you if we can, and we'll run if we cannot, and if you want to be angry over that and wag your stats and curse instead, you only look worse.

If this is not the way the game is meant to be played, then we would not have cloaks. We would not have bubbles. We would otherwise have something like "space jousting online". Big deal. Hey, let's save time. Let's put fittings together and then play calculator games. Why even have a sub?


The fact is, 10000 noobs roaming nullsec not afraid of their stats, not afraid to die, and slowly growing in skills and real experience, is a threat to nullsec. Everything that nullsec is built on is built on the lie that it can't happen, that nullsec is this deep dark place of instant death and certified total loss. That the only way to survive is to become another cog in the wheels of the power structure.

These are lies that only the large alliances are capable of spreading. They have the numbers to go into forums, game boards, just about everywhere, and tell everybody how horrible it is here.

But there is some truth: yeah those nullsec gate camps. Wow. Nullsec hides behind those. But every time, once past the initial gank pipeline, where are the hotdrops? Where is the blob? Where are the 20 tengus (is this one group of 20 that has a Probability Drive or is every nullsec constellation having one on standby?)

And what did one of the noobs get told at a first nullsec bubble camp?

"hotdrop or gtfo".

Oh how perfect. The camper himself talking the same smack lie.

I went to that camp in my SB and put a bomb right on top of a tengu. It was hilarious. There was around 20 minutes of smacktalk and gleeful ganking and then

"Headsh0t notl33t gbtWoW noobphag.."... .*BOOM*

Nothing but silence after that. Wakeup call.

Now, what am I SUPPOSED to do?

Your way? Your way is "hotdrop or gtfo".

Yeah, give them the attention of a hotdrop so they can SS up or jump into highsec and then talk more smack and bask in their leetness?

No, the carebear way is better. No words, no insult games, no playing on their terms. Just *BOOM*.


The humor went out of that camp. Suddenly killing everything that moves became a little more challenging. The certainty of being the killers and not the killed was gone.

And that's just a small example of nullsec can become a little more challenging.

The noob went back through that same gate this morning - there were no bubbles this time.

But I know, the reality is that nobody wants challenge. They want ISK and power and "jousting". They want to complain about highsec having everything as a diversion from the fact that nullsec is a beared up ISK spigot.

NOT playing the game the way you think it should be played is how we play this game. Taking the tools we have at hand and finding a way that is most unfriendly to to the power blocs, gate campers, and cannon fodder is how we play this game.

So many times some noob gets ganked and the battle cry is "THIS IS A SANDBOX!".

Well, indeed it is. And we are going to teach the new players and the veterans alike just that. And they are not going to be told that PVP is 10+ to 1 shiprape in a camp, or that it's 4000 ship fleet battles taking orders from high above so CEOs can felate themselves, or it's becoming a mult-year vet and then noob harvesting in highsec wardecs.

They will do what they want wherever they want, and if they fail, they will ship up again and try again.

We are going to tell them where to go. You will get to know them.


"We might even start mining out there." :DDD
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#43 - 2013-07-29 22:10:01 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Stuff

Wow, that's the biggest load of nonsense so far this thread. I can;t be bothered to real it but I think the TLDR is supposed to be, goons are falling apart, which is why VFK is empty and you are going to come live in VFK. Well the CFC is in fact growing, not sure if you've heard but we just won a new region. Once that's all set up logistically, we'll see how safe you feel to mine in VFK then. Once again you guys not only fail to know anything about the game, you fail to look it up before posting nonsense about it. Bravo.

Oh, and nobody is waiting around to "joust" with you. Continue to circlejerk with Harry & co.

lol @ 10k noobs. you couldn't get 10 with a month of preparation. If you get 10k noobs in VFK, I will have an actual medal made for you and get it posted to your house.
That's about when I got bored reading your wall of text.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#44 - 2013-07-29 23:33:36 UTC
Carebears did this.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#45 - 2013-07-30 01:24:57 UTC
ahahahahaha he kept the Tengu for himself, and after loudly leaping up and down and claiming he could be trusted with prizes.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Alt Elongur
Doomheim
#46 - 2013-07-30 01:35:50 UTC
As the sponsor that provided said Tengu, my employer would again just like to say, "Pfffffffffffft!" to the Goons. We're good with it.

Now, the time has come for me to join Alt Shi in the goo tank. My employer has plans for us and we need a much better name. We might try Amarr on for size. Perhaps. Time will tell.

Anywho... Harry, we will be in contact and we're good for another Navy Drake... or whatever.

This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#47 - 2013-07-30 02:18:12 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
ahahahahaha he kept the Tengu for himself, and after loudly leaping up and down and claiming he could be trusted with prizes.


You know not of what you speak.

Read this post from Harry or continue to be wrong.



Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-07-30 02:43:06 UTC
Can we expect 15 people next time?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#49 - 2013-07-30 02:53:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Alt Elongur wrote:
As the sponsor that provided said Tengu, my employer would again just like to say, "Pfffffffffffft!" to the Goons. We're good with it

oh guys help theres a big secret employer and he can afford A WHOLE TENGU and egads guys we need to rethink this AN EMPLOYER

You sound really dumb when you try that ~mysterious~ crap.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
ahahahahaha he kept the Tengu for himself, and after loudly leaping up and down and claiming he could be trusted with prizes.


You know not of what you speak.

Read this post from Harry or continue to be wrong.

Er, yeah you're literally quoting him saying the Tengu goes to himself, so. I mean, I know you think he's saying he will give it out next time but he's already thrown a great big paddy and asked CCP to ban people wardeccing him.

(there won't be a next time)

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#50 - 2013-07-30 03:40:18 UTC
You sound so jelly of this Tengu... even if Harry kept it (which your reading capabilities stop you from reading that he didn't), the donator didn't care. The only one that not only cares but is also mad about that is you

Tell me, u mad? u jelly?
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#51 - 2013-07-30 04:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
All that hair spray for his mohawk sucked the brain out, is all.

Though the "secret employer" thing is a wee bit cheesy, I'd agree with that...
Unless its Chribba. Then of course its totally legit... Roll

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Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2013-07-30 04:58:05 UTC
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
You sound so jelly of this Tengu... even if Harry kept it (which your reading capabilities stop you from reading that he didn't), the donator didn't care. The only one that not only cares but is also mad about that is you

Tell me, u mad? u jelly?


We are so mad and angry we are going to riot in the streets and burn down government buildings to take out our rage
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#53 - 2013-07-30 05:10:18 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
You sound so jelly of this Tengu... even if Harry kept it (which your reading capabilities stop you from reading that he didn't), the donator didn't care. The only one that not only cares but is also mad about that is you

Tell me, u mad? u jelly?


We are so mad and angry we are going to riot in the streets and burn down government buildings to take out our rage


Good. Finally you start to understand... :) Eh, whoever you are...

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#54 - 2013-07-30 05:37:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Khanh'rhh wrote:
ahahahahaha he kept the Tengu for himself, and after loudly leaping up and down and claiming he could be trusted with prizes.


I pushed hard and shotdown the algos, wich entiteled me for the Tengu, I knew you people will love that so I setup the OP to give the tengu to myself, tears after tears, this was expected... showing people how easy it would have been to win this great prize

after a bit of suffering I released your monkey brains from it, by posting that the prize just stays in the pot...

I also mentioned if one investor is not happy with the outcome I will send them back their Prize in ISK, however you might have lost that line...

I read through your other post now and will block you after that, you are just to anoying to me o/
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2013-07-30 05:41:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Alt Elongur wrote:
As the sponsor that provided said Tengu, my employer would again just like to say, "Pfffffffffffft!" to the Goons. We're good with it

oh guys help theres a big secret employer and he can afford A WHOLE TENGU and egads guys we need to rethink this AN EMPLOYER

You sound really dumb when you try that ~mysterious~ crap.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
ahahahahaha he kept the Tengu for himself, and after loudly leaping up and down and claiming he could be trusted with prizes.


You know not of what you speak.

Read this post from Harry or continue to be wrong.

Er, yeah you're literally quoting him saying the Tengu goes to himself, so. I mean, I know you think he's saying he will give it out next time but he's already thrown a great big paddy and asked CCP to ban people wardeccing him.

(there won't be a next time)


you got it again wrong, I suggested CCP bans a few people who are not good for the game, its not hard to find those, they just seem to make this all a real pain, they are stalking, insulting, all that **** needs to stop, they want to destroy content of other gamers and stop them making some, man they even made it happen that nobody goes to nullsec, look at my threads all the outcry because a newb goes directly to null to fight and wants to bring people there, not many can stand this shitstorm and thats why not many try... you think its cool doing this, but it's not, sorry

the guy who wardeced me, I do not even care about, how should I? I'm in VFK, how would wardec even hurt? you just don't understand that game mechanic I think

blocking you now, your begging for it was successful
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2013-07-30 06:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Aidan Brooder wrote:
All that hair spray for his mohawk sucked the brain out, is all.

Though the "secret employer" thing is a wee bit cheesy, I'd agree with that...
Unless its Chribba. Then of course its totally legit... Roll


hey nothing against the secret Investors...

all people who want to invest in this and not want to be called out are good to go, actually its the best thing to do, because you can keep a bit distance from the crazy stalking trolls here, who just suck up all our energy
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#57 - 2013-07-30 06:05:41 UTC
Alt Elongur wrote:
As the sponsor that provided said Tengu, my employer would again just like to say, "Pfffffffffffft!" to the Goons. We're good with it.

Now, the time has come for me to join Alt Shi in the goo tank. My employer has plans for us and we need a much better name. We might try Amarr on for size. Perhaps. Time will tell.

Anywho... Harry, we will be in contact and we're good for another Navy Drake... or whatever.


cool thanks! I need to rest a bit because all the trolling was a bit much the last days, but we setup the next event, and then we even will hit harder on those beasts!
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2013-07-30 06:50:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
some people thought it would be badass going to null, but we showed them everybody can do it, now they are angry :'(

https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/361919264627777538/photo/1
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#59 - 2013-07-30 08:36:01 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
some people thought it would be badass going to null, but we showed them everybody can do it, now they are angry :'(

https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/361919264627777538/photo/1

Still you don't get it...
I'm not surprised since you simply ignore everything anyone that isn't you says.
Here, I'll try again.
Nobody is angry you got to null, nobody is saying you can;t get to null and kill stuff (people do it every day).
All we are saying is you come on here, you ***** and you whine and you throw around schoolyard insults then you have the audacity to say that we are bad for the game?
You are 3 months old, and already from reading your posts and seeing the way you talk to people, I think CCP would do well to remove you from the game. They won't however as they understand freedom of speech. You are allowed to act like an idiot and they won't do anything about it.
Don't expect us to ever stop disagreeing with you and telling you everything you do is lame and pointless. That's our right, and we exercise it well. Now get back to robbing people, scammer.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2013-07-30 08:52:59 UTC
carebears are the new hardcore, big alliances are the puppys, deal with it Cool