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The Female Character "Attributes"

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Aya Shinomiya
Promethean Ascension
#1 - 2013-07-27 10:33:58 UTC
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.
Obunagawe
#2 - 2013-07-27 10:35:27 UTC
This is how I imagine others imagine they want a woman to be, so I make my chars in that image so that they get treated better and get free stuff.
Isaac Collins
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-07-27 10:42:07 UTC
No one cares, I repeat. No one. Not anyone, no individual exist with a real care for this matter. The game is 94% men (90% Male if you wanna be generous) We could have women looking like Quazymodo's grandad after he got his anus pillaged by the Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory and No one would legitimately care.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#4 - 2013-07-27 10:43:29 UTC
Lol

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#5 - 2013-07-27 10:47:35 UTC
It's all down to individual preferences, and personally, i perfer women with nice big boobs! Cool

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Snuggle Society.
#6 - 2013-07-27 10:53:09 UTC
I have a female character, her name is ermager purple. She is the ugliest thing I have ever seen, I cant remember if I gave her a big rack or not though.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-07-27 10:54:15 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.


For one your toon has no shirt and a fully open jacket, only thing preventing us from seeing cleavage is the fact that EVE CC locks camera angles. So...werble werble...no point to this thread...possible troll...initiating WhyNoOneCares.exe
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#8 - 2013-07-27 10:55:46 UTC
<-- Her breasts aren't really that big...
And there's not a lot of flesh showing, especially not in the regular "mugshot".

However I think it's down to preference. In another game I saw it phrased as "if I am gonna stare at a butt for hours, I might as well make it a pretty butt". It doesn't apply to eve to the same degree, but I think there is a lot to it.
Some posting alts are also made for comical effects, btw, so the forum might not be representative.
So yeah...
Aya Shinomiya
Promethean Ascension
#9 - 2013-07-27 11:00:54 UTC
Isaac Collins wrote:
No one cares, I repeat. No one. Not anyone, no individual exist with a real care for this matter. The game is 94% men (90% Male if you wanna be generous) We could have women looking like Quazymodo's grandad after he got his anus pillaged by the Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory and No one would legitimately care.


There is at least one. Me. Although correct would be "No one cares except you." And please a little bit more decency.
DSpite Culhach
#10 - 2013-07-27 11:05:43 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.


What I normally do in games that allow "alts" is make a male primary, sorta-kinda based on me and what I would be in the game, then female "alts" to differentiate. When the engines allow it, I simply concentrate on making faces that I like the look of. That's about it really, I don't tend to go messing with body "augmentation" ...

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2013-07-27 11:07:10 UTC
Ok.
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-07-27 11:08:15 UTC
Isaac Collins wrote:
No one cares, I repeat. No one. Not anyone, no individual exist with a real care for this matter. The game is 94% men (90% Male if you wanna be generous) We could have women looking like Quazymodo's grandad after he got his anus pillaged by the Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory and No one would legitimately care.


Well. You cared enough to read the thread, and you cared enough to post. I say that you cared.

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.
Aya Shinomiya
Promethean Ascension
#13 - 2013-07-27 11:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Aya Shinomiya
Lee Hekard wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.


For one your toon has no shirt and a fully open jacket, only thing preventing us from seeing cleavage is the fact that EVE CC locks camera angles. So...werble werble...no point to this thread...possible troll...initiating WhyNoOneCares.exe


It is a black top and the west. What I mean are this portraits where you can see the BH of the character. This was what I mean with "half naked". And I am not a so called "troll". I have not attacked anybody only giving my opinion. I only noticed that a lot of the female character portraits have big breasts all the way.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-07-27 11:12:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lee Hekard
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Lee Hekard wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.


For one your toon has no shirt and a fully open jacket, only thing preventing us from seeing cleavage is the fact that EVE CC locks camera angles. So...werble werble...no point to this thread...possible troll...initiating WhyNoOneCares.exe


It is a black top and the west. What I mean are this portraits where you can see the BH of the character. This was what I mean with "half naked". And I am not a so called "troll". I have not attacked anybody only giving my opinion. I only noticed that a lot of the female character portraits have big breasts all the way.


What?

Sorry your dangly floppers are providing poor acoustics for your lame response to a lame thread.
Shizu Eisenkreuz
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-07-27 11:15:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Shizu Eisenkreuz
Aya Shinomiya wrote:

There is at least one. Me. Although correct would be "No one cares except you." And please a little bit more decency.


Second post on the topic and you are already asking for 'more decency', because someone OMG SAID ANUS. He's been quite polite in his reply, if you ask me.
You know, he could have used way less DECENT words instead of anus.

Also, little reality check for you.
- vast majority of players are adult males
- vast majority of adult males like the features most commonly found on super-models, pornstars or famous actresses
- creating your own ideal female specimen in a virtual setting is entertaining

So, long story short: yes, most males like boobs and will create characters with big boobs (replace boobs with breasts if you are offended).


This doesn't apply to me obviously. I'm a female and I created my pilot to look like myself.
I also play naked, especially in summer and I have a webcam.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-07-27 11:18:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.


So what if a man wants to create an avatar that he enjoys looking at in a video game? What's he going to do, force himself on the avatar?

Seriously, don't go down this road, you won't like the answers, but if you insist on getting them anyway, then you are going to have to accept them for the sake of reality. So, I'll address the only actual question you asked in your entire OP, and leave it there, unless you have any other actual questions.

"But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be?"

No, people are usually just making something they enjoy looking at. Whether they expect that image or not in real life is beside the point and definitely not reflected by their choice of avatar creation. This is a world of fantasy, not reality, and you need to learn to separate the two, because you are bordering on the feminist mentality of "you can't do that with pixels because it offends me and gives women a bad image." It doesn't.

I might also add, in your OP, you didn't seem to offer any opinion at all, you really only asked one question amongst a bunch of words that seemed to describe what you were about to ask, but didn't.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-07-27 11:19:05 UTC
Shizu Eisenkreuz wrote:
So, long story short: yes, most males like boobs

I'm a hair-stroking man myself.
* Wipes nose on sleeve.
Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-07-27 11:19:16 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
EVE Online player like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies!


YES
Aleander Brunsh
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-07-27 11:19:57 UTC
For one, I *do* identify as feminist, and I think that the problem starts even before a player shows up: all female shoes have high heels. Even combat boots are raised. I mean, seriously, that just makes no sense whatsoever. Is that due to some sort of prevalent disease that requires double X chromosome, some sort of revenge for color blindness?

As for the "no one cares", brigade, lol, irony. Also, Lewis' Law.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-07-27 11:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Aleander Brunsh wrote:
For one, I *do* identify as feminist, and I think that the problem starts even before a player shows up: all female shoes have high heels. Even combat boots are raised. I mean, seriously, that just makes no sense whatsoever. Is that due to some sort of prevalent disease that requires double X chromosome, some sort of revenge for color blindness?

As for the "no one cares", brigade, lol, irony. Also, Lewis' Law.


Lewis' law only alludes to a version of subjective validation, and is itself, ironically, a form of subjective validation.

"Comments on any article about feminism justify feminism."

In other words, "anything you say about feminism when it gets talked about can be used to justify it, even if it proves it wrong, because when you disagree with me you're obviously against me which makes you a misogynist." This is called a false dichotomy. There are two kinds of people in the world, those that think in false dichotomies, and penguins.

Get it?

Anyway, point is, Lewis' law is self-defeating in any rational discussion. But, because feminism is, for the most part (read: not ALL feminism), mostly irrational, any feminist who subscribes to Lewis' Law would just use everything I said to validate themselves as better people anyway.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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