Jita Park Speakers Corner

I have been going on about this for a week now, and in each instance someone has countered this proposal with the usual “CCP does not have enough resources to allocate… Blah blah”. Collecting demographics and statistics are the only sure fire way to get the information you need in order to expand in an ever growing and ever changing market place.

Space democracies don’t work (as we have seen)
CCP needs to be pro-active and start collecting data in house… and here is how it can be done easily.



“Questionnaire’s Suck Because They Are Too Limited”


I have been hearing this allot, and yes I know… a form that says check A,B,C,D is too limited. In order to get beyond that, please read the following 3 parts to my idea.


Idea Part 1. There are some dating websites that have solved this problem, by letting the candidates create their own questions.

Idea Part 2. Do you remember that Miss EVE Universe pageant? Someone created a website that let the players submit their own API’s, it brought the women up randomly, and then people voted on them randomly when they were bored.


Idea Part 3. Mass Tests were not successful until CCP offered a reward for doing so, in this case it was an SP reward on singularity to screw around with. This brought the participation levels up to acceptable levels.





Combine Them & You Get Winning!


Allow players to create their own questions, and allow them to submit those questions to a website in a specific format. Said website (like the miss universe pageant) would randomize the questions and allow people to vote based upon that (this requires no effort from CCP)

Questions should have a like and dislike option
An option to “pass” on the vote if you decide that you do not want to vote on said topic
& then a series of check boxes based upon a predefined format


Eventually, some questions will amass likes and massive amounts of similar votes. This will happen all by itself and it requires NO EFFORT FROM CCP or a LOL CSM.








Stage II CCP Gets Involved


All CCP has to do now is gather the questions that have been self organized, and have the MOST LIKES and SIMILAR VOTES, be it positive or negative feedback on any topic (that's free demographics and statistics yo!) and compile them into a more “Official Website”


* "Official" CCP questionnaires should be a monthly updated list of questions
* The website should work the same as the previous one
* You should have to sign in with your account information (one account = one voting session)
* For voting you could offer a small reward in ISK (50,000 ISK) per new question they vote on


This would create extremely accurate demographic gathering with MINIMAL EFFORT and TIME SPENT on CCP’s part. Eve is a place where we are supposed to create our own content in the sandbox? Well, we can also give CCP ALL THE INFORMATION they will ever need to make the game a better place.






Sample Questionnaire Format


Question Page 2,345
Creator: Eternum Praetorian
[x] Like [x] Dislike [x] Report


Do you think that the new forums are unstable?

* Yes
* No
* About half the time
* I don’t post on them
* Pass



Do you get “Ganked” on the forums too often for your liking?

* Yes
* No
* About half the time
* I don’t post on them
* Pass


Would you post on them more if they were more stable?

* Yes
* No
* About half the time
* I don’t post on them
* Pass



Would you like the current forum issues to be addressed by CCP?

* Yes
* No
* About half the time
* I don’t post on them
* Pass



Summary

Step 1. a random person submits a question like this
Step 2. people vote on it randomly
Step 3. it collects votes
Step 4. after a month it may or may not collect a large number of likes and similar votes

Step 5. if it does it gets moved to CCP's "big brother" website
Step 6. people get paid small amounts of ISK per question they vote on, per account.


Step 7.

CCP now has all the information that they will ever need about their player base, and they barely had to lift a finger. These demographics will be ever changing, just as the player base changes. It will evolve and no one at CCP will ever have to struggle to "ask the right questions" because they will be right there in front of them. All of them assembled neatly and even the most basic of programs could sort them and prioritize them.

Fix at least one voted on issue per expansion.
Let the player base know that CCP did.
Reap the rewards as a business.

Very little of the CSM duties could be replaced by some sort of complicated polling system (which, BTW, would get even lower participation than the CSM elections. People only had to vote once for those, not tens or hundreds of times for your proposal).

A fair amount of our work is having CCPers show us an idea for an upcoming release and get feedback on it, before they go public and destabilize markets/**** people off. A lot of our work is at the summits where we can brainstorm and discuss ideas in detail. Neither of these two would be possible with your system.

Statistics and demographics are so fail...
I mean who uses them? I guess only fools with Latin names on a rant.

I guess what I should be asking is what is the problem he's trying to get CCP to address through this, and what's wrong with the way these things are being handled right now?

I haven't assumed anything, I glanced at the first post, saw something about dating, statistics and polling, and something about replacing the CSM. So I'm asking you, what problem does your solution actually solve, and why does the CSM have to be replaced?

I assume you've actually thought about these things since, you know, you typed lots of words on the subject. And I assume there's some sort of rationale behind it that can be summed up in a few paragraphs or less.

So now rather than having players voice our opinions and force change... we just send CCP data and what.... twiddle our thumbs hoping for change?

You yourself have already admitted that the CSM isn't an issue, thus, this entire thread is completely pointless.

I guess that all of you don't realize that it was the mass subscription cancellations, not the CSM that changed CCP''s mind? If people did not mass quit and drop their revenue stream we would be trucking along happily into the next Incarna patch.



This---> the CSM are not "wrong"
They are just not working as intended.

So, uh, the tools they have at their disposal right now isn't enough, so they need to add a polling thingy to their repertoire?

I mean, they have the CSM being very vocal about it, they have the players themselves being very vocal, they even have the gaming press covering it, but it was the unsubscription that did it so now they need to add polling into the mix instead of, you know, trawling the forums (theirs and external)?

Do you have any idea how little time I spent on the characters after this one was made? I have 6 characters total, 1 which I spent some time on, the rest are just "eh press random and let me get the **** out of here" when it became mandatory. And you expect me to actually spend time somewhere to fill out a questionaire, or even think up my own questions?


I don't know about the others, but I'm seeing "replacing the csm" in the title. Why?

I'm still wondering if you really thought that adding a poll (which tons or people won't bother to fill out) would give them more information than listening to the CSM and/or reading their own and external forums etc would give them.

And I'm still wondering why the CSM should be replaced. Replaced with what? Other people? Your poll idea? Santa?

Uh, no we certainly are not "representatives of CCP". We are representatives of the players *to* CCP.

For the record, I don't support your idea, I don't think it would tell CCP anything they don't already know. Also, I would point out that you would have had a much less critical reception if you hadn't called for replacing the CSM with something that wouldn't come close to providing the same value.