Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A hulk pilot needs to chose tank OR Yield, just like a pew pewer needs to chose between tank OR dps.
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In low sec my friend, only in low sec. See, the miners in high sec should only have to worry about yield or speed. Now pvpers should worry about tank or dps anywhere, tis their chosen road.

yes, pvp'ers can choose between dps or tank. However, they also have a third option, which is typically the best.
Balance between tank and dps.

With a balanced fit, some ships can get over 100k ehp and still have over 700 dps.


however, in a hulk, you don't have the option of a balanced fit for both yield and tank.

The reason is because a balanced fit is the same thing as a pure yield fit.. It basically means the gankers are gonna have to fire one more shot for you to go down... One shot int he world of eve isnt' very much.

My suggestion.

Remove insurance payout when concorded.

Since it's high sec, the player doing the ganking is responsible for the insurance payed out to the player they attack.
This is similar to a real life situation called auto insurance. If you're at fault for an accident and the cause was because you were doing something illegal, you're not going to be covered by your insurance, and you personally are responsable for the person with which you caused them to be invovled. However, in real life you would be responsible for the full coverage of their car, plus any injuries or deaths you may have caused.

So your repremand from the authorities in this situation is loss of sec status. Since it was in high sec and you were committing a criminal act, then you get no insurance, and since you brought it apon someone else and cause them loss through illegal actions, then you're responsible for the insurance on their vehicle, which in the case of a hulk would only be 25-30 mil, but still enough to make gankers think twice.

Then a simple change to the hulk would be just to add one low slot.

This low slot could be used to fit a damage control, which can greatly increase your ehp from around 9k to around 14k, which can be enough to change the chance of gank, while not directly effecting mining.

Now, the last change to this is to add another exhumer/mining barge to the game.

The new exhumer will have reduced mining yield (maybe that of a mackinaw) for increased tank.

This exhumer would be capable of pulling out a 40k(maybe more) ehp while still having enough mining yield to be effective.

This would be used for those in high sec careful mining, or low/null sec mining where more tank is needed for ganks and/or rats, while still having good yield.

There's actuall a thread about that on the general discussion board. Apparently they are testing the removal of insurance pay for losses to Concord kills on SIngularity. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30305&find=unread

Like someone in my corp mentioned yesterday when we talked about this, with the way destroyers are getting buffed in the winter patch, a non-tanked mining barge will still be very easily ganked with minimal monetary losses if the gankers are looking for laughs. Afterall, it's not the miners they go for if they want to profit from it, it's the haulers and shuttles with valuable cargo as well as incursion runners (based on current events it seems). The tier 3 battlecruisers being essentially nothing but glass cannons, depending on the price of them, they will also most likely end up being used against mining barges.

why PG? it is an industrial ship, it relies on heavy structure like a freighter.

if CCP should ever decide to increase HP then also add a "penalty" by making it hull HP. this way tanking and repping becomes much harder than with armor or shields. but it improves survivability against ganking.

(my very personal opinion: i would like to see a hulk peaking at 60k EHP @ omni damage, with all buffer mods and bonuses.)