EVE General Discussion

You do keep bring this up - As noted, it's pointless. Why do you care?

As for the character bazaar, using SP there is pretty much pointless, too - except that folks have bought into the hype of SP. It is, at best, a badly-flawed approximation of character ability. More often it's irrelevent. At worst, utterly misleading. If I were in the market for a new character, I don't want to know SP - I want to know skill trees. What can that character do..?

Noobs have to train more..? Oh noes! They have to climb the ladders that this four+ year old character has already climbed - Even though some of the new ladders are shorter! How ever will they survive?

When you consider that the queues to many various specific ships are actually shorter now, I think those noobs owe *me.*
Not really. Don't actually *care* how long it takes them to get to point A or option B in the game - Within broad ranges, player skill matters far more than anything else. I've faced off with n00bs who have given me a dangerous run for my money - 'cause they were good. Not 'cause they had high SP.

holy ******* hell you guys.

the **** are you people complaining about something that happened ******* months ago of which CCP has warned a whole bloody damned ******* year ago?

holy ****.

Other than being fascinated with the semantic acrobatics you insist upon, I don't care. I started too late to do anything about the change, so I have no stake in the matter one way or the other. It just seemed silly and pedantic of you to insist that it didn't constitute "free" SP when, in fact, that's exactly what it was. CCP made a change to skill training and had two choices: 1) require existing players to train the new skills in order to use the ships, or 2) give them free SP in order to bring them up to speed to their current capabilities.

They chose option 2, which is the clearly superior. They communicated it clearly, published it early enough, and gave everyone in the game a chance to qualify for the SP boost. Fair warning. All is good. No complaints.

But just because I don't "care" doesn't mean you can just change the meanings of words. You received free SP. Period.

You had X, now you have X+Y and you didn't have to train for Y. I don't need to get a dictionary to tell me that's free.

I invite you to find an example of a character with more than 1M fewer skill points than another selling for more ISK. It doesn't matter if the system is imperfect; it's the one they use. Just because you don't feel SP is a fair measure of a character's value doesn't make it so. It is the indicator of value.

SP is usually one of the two pieces of information included in Character Bazaar posts, and is the single most accurate indicator of that player's ISK value. You and I have different definitions of "irrelevant" because when I think of it I don't think "Always relevant enough to be included in every single Character Bazaar post ever in the history of the forum."

I mean, seriously?

Why are you even continuing with this charade? All to distract from the singular point that you tried to say you didn't get free SP when that is in fact exactly what happened.

Just fuckin go "Yeah, it was free SP but it's not a big deal and everyone had plenty of time to qualify" and I would be like "Yeah, I agree," and life would go on as if nothing happened.

I don't understand why this is even an argument, let alone how you managed to make it go on this long.



Who ******* said "Oh noes?" Those are your words, not ******* mine. Don't ******* just make **** up that the other person didn't say so you can pretend like you have something to complain about or rebut.

Let me be really clear for you, Francis. I have absolutely no problem with what happened. It was communicated clearly and executed in a fashion that was free and fair for everyone in the game. I wouldn't have expected them to handle it any other way.

Got that?

But, that doesn't mean the SP wasn't free.

Who exactly are you rolling your eyes at here?

Nobody is making the argument you are rebutting. You are arguing with a fantasy that you invented.

Nobody said anyone owes anyone anything ever. What is this in response to? You act like you're being clever and making a scathing point, but nobody ever said anything of the sort so you're literally rburning nobody.



Then why argue so vehemently over what basically amounts to the definition of "free."

You got free SP. That's my only point. Every single other word you have typed in this post on any topic other than the truth or falsity of whether or not you received free SP as a resulting of the expansion are completely nonsensical and offtopic.



Great! Congratulations. I'll set the elves to work on your medal as soon as I get back to the workshop.

Still don't understand how the **** this is ******* relevant to the topic at hand.

Did you receive free SP?

The answer is yes.

Just say ******* "Yes" and move on.

Thats the funniest post I have ever seen.

OP as everyone in this post and the rest of EvE had known this was going to happen 1 year ago.

So stop ranting and get on playing EvE as is Intended.

Wait a second, this still isn't locked?

I agree.

CCP staff should personally go to your house, knock on your door and deliver such news to you in person, both via verbal communication, text documents and a big fat post-it on your forehead written in inverse characters so that you won't miss it when you look in the mirror.

That or do the human race a favour and shoot you in the face when you answer the door.

Still can't let it go, can you?

Must've found a tender spot, eh?

It's still not free SP.

New players are in better situation now compared to older players. For example, they don't have to train to fly logis before they can sit in fleet command ship. I mean that requirement was logical and all that stuff, right?

Never going to happen. But thanks for posting.

Oh and CCP, thanks for my free SP.

It made perfect sense and was clearly explained in the blog.